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No more new features for intel macs after 5 years. They will be dropped completely from security patches in 2028.

2028 is going to be another major opportunity to convert Mac users to Linux.

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

One of Linus Torvald’s biggest scandals.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Hey, you can always pay someone for extended support!

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 5 points 1 week ago

My neighbor was my last convert. Elderly couple that just need Facebook and the ability to print mundane things.

It was a Windows 11 AIO that got a virus and I gave them the look, man speech

Look, man I got this system at the house I could bring over, really utilitarian, no frills but also nothing wasted, it'll do everything you need, it's called Linux.

Oh, you've heard of it, ok, well...

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Only if right to repair progresses. I'm looking right now at my laptop with 2 out of 3 ports broken, a battery which states 30% of health remaining and so on.

I want to buy a framework laptop but they're kinda pricy.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago

I rarely have trouble getting parts for laptops, especially batteries.

Then I don't buy consumer models, which are hot garbage.

I have a Lenovo laptop from 2012 that I just replaced a fan in...for $10. Two 2018 Dell laptops I recently replaced the keyboards and batteries, for about $20 each part (and upgraded the keyboards to back-lit too!).

Laptops aren't a great example of right-to-repair issues.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

The all or nothing attitude is problematic because it’s still worth using Linux on not so repairable hardware while you write down repairable hardware alternatives to upgrade to in the future.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right to repair an all sure, but like, who's stopping you from fixing those USB ports and battery now? Pretty sure you'd have RMA'd them if it qualified, so why not just fix it yourself? USB ports are easy to resolder with a Hot air rework station, trickier with a soldering iron but totally possible. Batteries are usually available on ifixit.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Only on a site like this you would read something like "yeah, just get an hot air station and fix the smd, ezpz." lol

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Here you find the adventurous. What greater adventure than accepting "I can't make it worse" and just trying to fix something you're wildly underqualified to fix?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah sure, I'm known to have repaired several devices to the recycling bin, but we're a fraction of a fraction of a minority

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I would happily pay the price for Framework, if not for the extra import duties and shipping fees I would have to pay for it.
Not to forget, that would apply to every replacement part I would need in the future, because it is not available in my country.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Th by-pass takes seconds to accomplish. Install normal.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had way more issues installing Linux than Windows (since Windows 2000 at least).

Just recently attempted to install Debian on a laptop which has had Debian installed numerous times in the past, and it simply puked.

And I've been in IT for decades. Your average user will find it more challenging.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Debian is not the most easy to install distro even Linus Torvalds struggled with the install process at one point. You cant compare a complicated distro directly to windows as that would be cherry-picking try installing Mint instead if you want it to be as straightforward as possible.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've never had to buy new hardware for a Windows upgrade.

Business buys new hardware on a cycle anyway, and upgrades OS on a cycle too, so this is a tempest in a teapot.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Oh well good point: your company is the only context that exists.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

It’s throwing out perfectly good hardware earlier than need be. That’s indefensible.