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Just some things off the top of my head
Someone posted here recently on using tools to anonymize faces in the protest without being obvious about it, by face-swapping them. GenAI can do this easily.
For orgs with little resources, GenAI could help making more eye-catching flyers and posters but it needs to be counter-balanced by the risk of being labeled as "AI slop".
LLM tools can be used to detect and counter spam and shock campaigns in our social media.
Anonymize faces
Oh i really don't trust that
Flagging likely cops, though; maaaaybe,
Oh i really don't trust that
Why not?
So, i've seen this proposed, and i don't see why blurring or blacking wouldn't work. Safer, too.
Plus, I've told lies that idiots misread and followed back to truth before. The machine has to have the faces fed in, which means you're creating a duplicate record, and the extent to which the users of this technology never seem to understand it makes me... I don't trust them to not accidentally use the cloud, much less successfully maintain an air gapped machine.
Again; this is frivolous bullshit, black bars exist, so the people using it would be enthusiasts, and every single person I've ever met who id trust with that kind of risk for those kind of stakes would laugh you out of the room for suggesting it.
So, i've seen this proposed, and i don't see why blurring or blacking wouldn't work. Safer, too.
The person who wanted to do this, wanted to make a poster that doesn't look scary to outsiders, by having blurred or blackened faces.
And chill with the condescension
Im generally a condescending asshole, and civil conversations on this topic are rare as fuck. Not used to them.
not scary
I don't get it.
Way I understand it, They didn't want to give flyers to outsiders for "come to our march /org /whatever" and be all blurred/black faces
Yeah but... Why?
Why not just inimate at thatbpoint, why use live fpotage at all?
Just ask them yourself mate https://slrpnk.net/post/23329676
I did, they didn't have an answer. Noped out of the convo i think.
Using it to disrupt fascists online is about the only thing I've come up with. They're doing it to us so 🤷♂️
Otherwise there's nothing AI can do that we can't already.
You mean with something like a spam attack ?
Something like that. Use bots to disrupt their discussions, tactics like forum sliding etc that they do all the time.
This is silly. Anarchist organizations are not different to any other organizations with respect to any data processing algorithms. AI is no different from other data processing algorithms with respect to any organizations save those selling AI.
IMO, other than to fight against establishment AI-powered projects, avoid LLMs and image generation for public facing anarchist agitprop for now because it's currently associated with and controlled by the capitalist class. There isn't really a particularly great application area for LLMs and image generation where I would rather have a machine do the work than a human.
Optimal control theory and reinforcement learning can be used for peaceful robotics applications. Classical machine learning is used all the time in the background without controversy. We can keep doing that. IMO the CEOs and business people don't actually understand the mathematics behind the systems they work with, so if you like math and have the time to pore through research papers, you can expose the business people as jackasses who don't know shit about fuck (even more than they already do themselves).
In the background, work to wrest control of AI from the capitalist class if you have the resources and time. We should periodically revisit the issue as the culture changes and people learn how to use (and misuse) AI tools. IMO it makes sense to introduce it into anarchist spaces only when we can run our own AI resources independently from capitalists. But before that, we're also going to need some technically informed theory about the ethics and philosophy behind AI.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think we need more technical training on how to use AI, both the training/testing workflow and the mathematics behind it. In general, I think that we need to learn more about the technical tools of the oppressors, like missiles, UAVs, LRADs, surveillance technology, etc., so we can properly combat against them.
Face recognition might be usable to spot agent provocateurs at protests but can be a double edged sword.
LLMs seem pretty useless to me and generative content AI seems to have very little utility as others here already said.
Face recognition might be usable to spot agent provocateurs at protests but can be a double edged sword
I'm extremely skeptical that facial recognition would be better at this task than a group of trained humans (although I'm personally terrible at faces 😆). Existing facial recognition software is trained on datasets that reinforce existing oppressive biases, so you'd probably have to train from scratch on a fresh dataset or do some extremely careful transfer learning to even begin to get anything useful. (IMO getting a sufficient dataset is the hard part since you can do basic facial recognition with an eigenvalue decomposition on any computer.)
I feel like an org using genAI would probably alienate pretty much every anarchist on the planet who isn't a dbzer0 user tbh.