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[–] 01189998819991197253 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Say it with me, now: chatgpt is not a doctor.

Now, louder for the morons in the back. Altman! Are you listening?!

ChatGPT is not a doctor. But models trained on imaging can actually be a very useful tool for them to utilize.

Even years ago, just before the AI “boom”, they were asking doctors for details on how they examine patient images and then training models on that. They found that the AI was “better” than doctors specifically because it followed the doctor’s advice 100% of the time; thereby eliminating any kind of bias from the doctor that might interfere with following their own training.

Of course, the splashy headline “AI better than doctors” was ridiculous. But it does show the benefit of having a neutral tool for doctors to utilize, especially when looking at images for people who are outside of the typical demographics that much medical training is based on. (As in mostly just white men. For example, everything they train doctors on regarding knee imagining comes from images of the knees of coal miners in the UK some decades ago)

[–] xep@fedia.io 51 points 2 days ago

LLMs are not Large Medical Expert Systems. They are Large Language Models, and are evaluated on how convincing their output is, instead of how accurate or useful it is.

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are they... why are they having autocomplete recommend medical treatment? There are specialized AI algorithms that already exist for that purpose that do it far better (though still not well enough to even assist real doctors, much less replace them).

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

Because sycophants keep saying it's going to take these jobs, eventually real scientists/researchers have to come in and show why the sycophants are wrong.

[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their analysis also revealed that these nonclinical variations in text, which mimic how people really communicate, are more likely to change a model’s treatment recommendations for female patients, resulting in a higher percentage of women who were erroneously advised not to seek medical care, according to human doctors.

This is not an argument for LLMs (which people are deferring to an alarming rate) but I’d call out that this seems to be a bias in humans giving medical care as well.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

Of course it is, LLMs are inherently regurgitation machines - train on biased data, make biased predictions.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

large language model deployed to make treatment recommendations

What kind of irrational lunatic would seriously attempt to invoke currently available Counterfeit Cognizance to obtain a "treatment recommendation" for anything...???

FFS.

Anyone who would seems a supreme candidate for a Darwin Award.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 days ago

There's a potentially justifiable use case in training one and evaluating its performance for use in, idk, triaging a mass-casualty event. Similar to the 911 bot they announced the other day.

Also similar to the 911 bot, i expect it's already being used to justify cuts in necessary staffing so it's going to be required in every ER to ~~maintain higher profit margins~~ just keep the lights on.