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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 135 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Reminder that their CEO unapologetically said that he doesn't think water is a human right.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Other than Costco's CEO, every CEO is just a massive shitburger.

[–] dynamo@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (9 children)
[–] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

He’s been holding back half-life 3 his entire life. 100% evil.

[–] Nika03@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll change my mind when tf2 will be given a fuck about

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tf2

A... game from two decades ago? I appreciate them for keeping the game up for this long, dude. The hats are still in my inventory, and the good matches still to be had. I wouldn't think Blizzard is a bad company if they had let SC:BW go, or SOE if they said no more everquest. I think being mad about a game that old is demanding something more than even a good company should be expected to provide.

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[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Also reminder that the US is the only country in the UN to vote against food being a human right.

USA 🤝 Nestlé

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Time to get the guillotines.

[–] Starshader@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminder that as much as I am not a Nestlé fan, he never said that.

He said :

“Water is, of course, the most important raw material we have today in the world. It’s a question of whether we should privatize the normal water supply for the population. And there are two different opinions on the matter. The one opinion, which I think is extreme, is represented by the NGOs, who bang on about declaring water a public right. That means that as a human being you should have a right to water. That’s an extreme solution. The other view says that water is a foodstuff like any other, and like any other foodstuff it should have a market value. Personally, I believe it’s better to give a foodstuff a value so that we’re all aware it has its price, and then that one should take specific measures for the part of the population that has no access to this water, and there are many different possibilities there.”

Also, the whole "raahaahaha Nestlé is evil" was propulsed by Coca-Cola and Pepsico because they hated that a non-US company had rights on water in the US. (Water that they wanted to sell in the first place.) Nestlé is no more evil than any food company that is bigger than your local ethnic market. They just suck like every company. Don't buy the propaganda and think that you are better from buying that brand rather than that one. Just say "fuck all of them".

[–] WigglyTortoise@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That means that as a human being you should have a right to water. That’s an extreme solution.

It seems like he said that to me.

[–] Starshader@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Yes but... you got it. That was in the sense of, I can say fuck you all and take as much water as I want for my pool and to clean my car and it would be OK because I have an inconditional right to it...

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 102 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Didn’t they kill babies too?

[–] HowShouldIKnow@lemm.ee 72 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They also said "Chocolate without slavery? That's unpossible!"

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

The crimes against humanity are what make it so tasty!

Well, that and the heaps of refined sugar.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's every large chocolate company though. Nestle just said the quiet part out loud. Even the ones that promise to use "ethical chocolate" are either unverifiable in their claims to begin with and/or have been exposed to be outright lying.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

There are smaller chocolate brands that do have verifiably ethical chocolate. The big companies do everything they can to crush those chocolatiers specifically. Often they do this by spreading rumors about how ethical chocolate is unverifiable or a lie.

It is tough, because there are so many intermediaries in the business, but it would actually be much easier for the larger corps because they have more resources and better leverage. There are also companies that just lie for profit.

Nestle could, with minimal effort, insist on a functional chain of provenance, and could easily fund all of the enforcement and verification efforts with money that fits into rounding errors on their balance sheet. They won't, because that helps every chocolate producer avoid supporting slave labor, and eventually it would go away. They want the waters muddy so they can continue to abuse children living in impoverished conditions for profit, while saying "yes, but nobody can verify their chocolate isn't prepared by child slave laborers."

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

Yeah, or well, in theory their formula works, but given the realities of developing countries they knew they were killing babies when they introduced it there.

Didn't matter, made profits, line went up.

[–] Haziiieeeeeee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

My comment was going to be. For poisoning a bunch of African children.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I try to stay away from buying nestle stuff, but it's nearly impossible... they have their mitts in everything, even cat food. (Purina) They have over 2000 brands ffs. https://www.nestle.com/brands

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Really ought not buy their cat food though, at least not to feed cats. It’s horrible from a nutritional perspective.

Bad cat food is a major factor to feline obesity. Chonkers are not cute.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with the overall sentiment. The money you're saving in cat food is only going to lead to vet bills later on.

I'll fight you on whether or not chonkers can be cute, though.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Without context, absolutely cute. However, since pets rely on their humans for food, them growing obese is a sign of abuse/neglect (even if not on purpose). Then it’s less cute.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

at least not to feed cats

Well now I've gotta look into all the alternative uses for cat food.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I’ve a friend who fed worms on it. Basically fodder for fodder animals.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you think it’s hard in developed countries(im trying not to make an assumption about where you live but assume it’s considered a developed country) you should see the issue in other countries. Maggi is one of the most popular brands in a lot of South Easy Asia; you see their sauces in most restaurants and the instant noodles are considered the best.

And the whole Japanese Kit Kat thing. I’ve seen store in SEA that have tons of different Kit Kats forms Japan because they have tons of flavours. Obviously this is also popular.

Nestle has dug themselves an entrenched position in SEA and will not give it up.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

They have nestled themselves into an entrenched position, lol

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm in Canada, and while there are some options they're usually more expensive or harder to find. I live nearly 50 km (30 miles) from the nearest city and the few local stores here have extremely limited selections which means I have to drive 100km (60 miles) round trip just to avoid giving nestle any of my money.

Usually it means a once a month road trip to stock up on stuff, but we still have to break down and bite the bullet every now and then when we run out unexpectedly.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 12 points 2 years ago

That's what you get if companies have no limit to growth.

[–] CeleryFC@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Buy Costco brand. I’m assuming they have cat food, been buying my dog food there for years.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are a few inaccuracies and simplifications here. Lactalis is independent from Nestlé, though they have a co-entreprise for dairy. For l'Oréal, it's a bit disingenuous to link both here because massive companies like that have a lot of mutual participations. And KitKat is manufactured by Hershey's in the US I think.

That being said, Lactalis is equally shitty so you can avoid it anyway. And the same goes for l'Oréal. I don't know about Hershey's but I could bet.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Nestle also sold Wonka, I believe

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Accurate except for the depiction of Nestle as if it fucking cares.

[–] EherVielleicht@feddit.de 92 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Perfection.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey now, let's not forget they killed babies too.

[–] 1st@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

Or that they use child slave labor.*

*Note: they don't own slaves just contract work out to slave owners

[–] Arethusa@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm amazed at how few people are aware of this, Fuck Nestlé!

[–] Arethusa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I learned about this at university. Wasn't sure I'd find mention of it online but it's out there. One of the many examples of corporations extra psychotic behavior in the Global South. IIRC they were keen on getting mothers feeding their babies formula particularly so their breast milk dried up and then they would have no alternative, becoming dependent and stuck in a financial bind.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They also made up the whole "energy gap" nonsense trying to convince children and parents that their sugar water is "healthy".

https://worldofbuzz.com/heres-need-know-viral-milo-sugar-controversy/

https://marketingmagazine.com.my/we-dont-need-no-sugar-daddy/

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Fuck nestle

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Today's subject: Slavery

[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

In most counties they just sell processed tap water.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[–] bappity@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

nestle is for some reason the only brand that stores near me use for the powdered coffee stuff >_>

Like water for chocolate

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