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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The UK law just seems weird. So you can't discriminate on biological sex, which means if a trans man with a beard goes into a woman's bathroom and asked to leave because it's making women uncomfortable to be sharing a bathroom with a bearded dude, the dude can sue for discrimination?

Seems really bizarre to me. People need to calm down about the bathroom stuff, trans people have to pee too,

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

She's literally encouraging harassing people on toilets, now? I see absolutely no possible way this could have consequences she could have foreseen. Totally not going to end badly for anyone.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

She needs to go to therapy. This whole ordeal just reeks of unaddressed trauma causing massive rational blind spots.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

People who spend this much time thinking about other people's genitals are fucking weird.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

what if you're thinking about tickling them? that's ok right?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago

Only if they are into it

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

People who spend this much time thinking about other people are fucking weird

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I'm not convinced she isn't homicidal.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago

I suspect she is doing this for clout.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

She should start by installing one in her own.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I thought about saying the same but I didn't want to subject anyone to her.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I am convinced she has a closeted fetish. I mean, she thinks entirely too much about trans people and their genitals for someone who doesn't have a fetish, ya know?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago

She's a regular moaning Myrtle

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 20 hours ago

How creepy of her to say that.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Trans women are women, and JK Rowling is the disappointment that keeps disappointing

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we have her permission to take her picture in a bathroom?

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Technically yeah but why would anyone want to do that, just look at her.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago

Idk, we will find someone.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Already turned all the trans and Potter fans against her. Now she's gonna turn all other women against her.

When you're too stupid to take your mountains of cash and fuck off to enjoy life.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 20 hours ago

JK Rowling doesn’t give a damn about advocating for real women issues.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 11 points 22 hours ago

What a psycho bitch.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Is there any evidence of men actually pretending to be trans women so as to harass women the toilets? Or of trans woman harassing other women in the toilets? Or is this all a dream in the feverish imagination of the TERFs, who then proceed to harass trans women and cis women alike for not looking how they think a woman should look?

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I've heard of it happening literally once, and if I remember correctly it was in Texas so who fucking knows if it was even a true story.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's all imagined. First of all, even as a cisgender man, if I had intent to perv on women in the bathroom, the acts of invasion of privacy and assault are already illegal. If I peep into your stall, touch you, harass you (sexually or otherwise), those are already crimes. And they would be crimes if I were a cisgender woman, too, or a trans man or woman, or anything else on the rainbow. Being physically in the restroom does not inherently constitute an invasion of privacy because it is still a communal area. Nor does it inherently endanger you even if I am a man. As such, should not constitute a crime in an of itself. That is particularly true when it necessarily involves legally defining a line between gendered spaces, and that line will necessarily involve invasive investigations to even begin to figure out where on the line each person entering that space "belongs".

That rolls into my second point, the notion that you will just "know" someone's sex from seeing a fully clothed person alone is a joke. There are more than a few recent examples of cis women being accused of being trans women and there are many trans men that you would be requiring to use the women's restroom that you would be absolutely certain are cis men by sight alone. Are you going to require a bouncer check ID at the door? Check out their genitals? Do a blood test? Or are we just going to police people on vibes and just absolutely hound people that do not meet your minimum requirement of "man" or "woman" (which also means the trans people that more closely resemble their cis counterparts will pass without issue, and supposedly rape everyone).

And third, there is no evidence that trans women are a danger to cis women at all, nor that any cis men are pretending to be trans women in order to gain access to bathrooms to commit crimes because... once again... they are still crimes regardless of your perceived gender. It does not help a pervert or rapist by half-assing a disguise like a cartoon character, wearing a wig and a skirt, calling yourself a "gal", and assaulting women in the restroom. He could just as easily do that without the stupid subterfuge and it would be equally as illegal.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 21 hours ago

Is there any anti-trans "argument" that doesnt make stuff up?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can always find "a case" that they'll use to say "SEE I WARNED YOU". The point is - it is not an issue, it's a scare tactic because "the others" are scary to them. Same reason with racists and immigrants from other countries - I have heard that 4000 doctors saving lives deserve to be kicked out because there was one person from a foreign country that killed someone. Bigots don't operate on logic, facts or statistics. They find / manufacture facts that support their "view" and ignore everything else

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That's a good point. Even by asking the question I'm entering the debate on the bigots' terms. Even if there are a few examples, the whole issue of who goes in which toilet and who polices it is just the thing the bigots have happened to land on. If it wasn't this, they'd find some other way to persecute the people they hate. I really don't understand how JK Rowling can carry on like this and not feel like she's wasting her life.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

There are cases.

Trans people are people and can be abusive or assault others just like everybody else. Trans folk have to deal with more mental health issues than the average person. I’m just guessing, but it might make them more likely to be victims of violence or to abuse others.

These are just a few from the first page of DDG results.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/former-student-convicted-sexually-assaulting-two-girls-released-loudoun-county-judge

https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Transgender-woman-allegedly-sexually-assaults-teen-in-walmart-505820451.html

https://nypost.com/2023/06/01/oklahoma-parent-files-suit-after-daughter-was-beaten-by-trans-student/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-wyoming-woman-convicted-of-sexually-assaulting-10-year-old-girl-in-bathroom

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2021/10/29/trans-bathroom-policy-sexual-assault/8568005002/

Of course this is only anecdotal.

Bathroom restrictions don’t protect against abusers of any gender. People should feel safe using a bathroom regardless of their gender or sexuality.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Remember the media is slightly biased towards showing news of assaults from such groups.

I’m sure you can find news about assaults by cis men in bathrooms as well.

https://www.todayinbc.com/news/man-charged-after-alleged-sexual-assault-in-bathroom-in-vancouvers-stanley-park-8018581

https://globalnews.ca/news/11205876/vpd-bathroom-assault-teen/

Of course the whole trans bathroom debate is controversial and gets more views.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I think that's a good point...harassing or assaulting women in the bathroom (or anywhere) is already illegal.

Yes, the argument about no trans people in bathrooms is about the others feeling safe.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago

Hateful bigot.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The one thing I don't get about these Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists is why they worry about toilets so much.

It's silly even historically.

We have had societies where all communal toilets were unisex without feminism (Greek, Roman), we've had societies with gender segregated toilets without feminism (Victorian Era), we've had societies with gender segregated toilets (today), so why are unisex toilets incompatible with feminism?

Honestly it makes no sense to me other than they're just panicking about penises.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

They're not even panicking about penises. They are just looking for ways to persecute trans people out of hatred and bigotry, and they'll use whatever made-up reasoning allows them to keep doing it.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously. I think the only reason she was able to create one of the most hated characters in all of literature is that she was autobiographying at the time.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WTF is wrong with this lady.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

She is no lady. Just a wicked witch.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watching JK Rowling become Delores Umbridge is a weird experience for my inner child.

The projection had to be from somewhere I suppose.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Not only is she a bigot, but a pervert as well.

Can't you be held legally accountable for encouraging very obvious (and creepy) crime? I do hope she gets sued over that. Even if the law decided to not protect trans folk this is still definitely a crime.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Can’t wait til she sues another terf for photographing her while she’s taking a dump in the loo

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Transphobes are demons, this isn't a moral position for a normal person to hold.

[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this bitch sounds like they're so out of touch, like don't use public toilet at all, do they even pee

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