Hate to break it to you, but you are also full of Teflon.
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And Teflon is also a plastic
I came to say this. I have also noticed a strong trend amongst people from each generation for health.
Teflon was introduced in 1938, when my grandfather was 11. In the 1955, when my father was born, is the last time that we have Teflon untainted blood from. At some point between 1955 and 1985 when I was born, Teflon proliferated to the point that it was being found in every blood sample around the world.
So my grandfather lived ~40-50 years without being massively contaminated with Teflon, my father probably got to adulthood, and I have never been without it. Now an anecdotal sample that follows a larger trend. My grandfather is in his 90's with pretty good health and is still going pretty strong. My father and both of his siblings are in their 60's-70's and all have failing health, and I know so few people in my own age range that are actually healthy without autoimmune disease or other systemic issue that I couldn't fill a high school auditorium with them.
Not saying that there's nothing wrong with microplastics or PFAS, but keep in mind there's survival bias at play here.
I have seen the exact opposite as, aside from obesity problems, each generation I've seen has had significantly higher life expectancy than the last.
I know multiple people now who have outlived the short life expectancy their health complications in the 80s supposedly gave them. I know a few families who have people living longer than anyone else in their blood line ever has. The heart and lung problems that killed off my grandparents have been dealt with now and my parents and my generation are already outliving them and far healthier at our ages.
This is all thanks to great medical advancement, of course, but the point is this isn't some dire threat that warrants doom and gloom, but another medical hurdle for us to be aware of and work out like we have all the others.
And they're all full of microplastics, and we also all have a decent amount of lead.
Teflon is so unreactive (by design) that it largely passes right through you.
Scientists are still learning about the effects of PFAS on humans, but studies show these chemicals can harm different systems in the body.
The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry says exposure to PFAS may lead to higher risk for kidney or testicular cancer, increased cholesterol levels, and damage to the liver and immune system.
My hospital sent an email out that for unknown reasons liver disease is on the rise for non drinkers and people without diabetes.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/pfas-forever-chemicals-health-risk-water
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/1106863211/the-dangers-of-forever-chemicals
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The problem is that it's so inert, it becomes impossible to remove from a contaminated environment or particularly a person's blood stream.
The amount that inevitably gets caught in your blood will just stay in your body forever, settling down in a critical organ like your brain or kidneys and giving you cancer or some other horrible problem.
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Please stop the ride, I want off
"Good News, Everyone!"
-Climate Change
The Dacia Sandero!
Elder millennial here, I get all three! What's my prize?
Climate apocalypse
You get to be the last generation to own property.
Don't forget about asbestos!
You may be entitled to compensation
You’ll get $9.37 and the lawyers will get $230 billion.
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Is Uncle Asbestos coming?
That's great-grandpa.
My mother (a boomer) died of an asbestos cancer (one of the better kinds of asbestos deaths) because her mother used asbestos heat spreaders on the stove
Those were asbestos cloth and they slowly disintegrated during use (between the stove and the pans) putting asbestos fibres into the air
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Gen X over here on all three like it was gonna be a party.
Trust me, Microplastics boy. You're full of those other things too.
Also all three of you are likely full of shit .... because your colons are full of cancerous polyps.
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Me looking at what our government is doing:
Funding the big corporations that poison us, because so many are anti regulation.
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Fun fact, Teflon was invented by dupont. And the Wikipedia page is fairly clear on the safety of Teflon being in question. The real concern is who did Dupont pay off to make Teflon a thing?
Teflon is safe in typical use cases.
Here's a great video from Adam Ragusea: https://youtu.be/5FNNKhVoUu8?si=vXrfusnsGzvXErfn
The real issue is PFAS or PFOA, which are used to help bind Teflon, or other nonstick polymers, to other surfaces. This was all done in the early 1900s, and the likelihood of some conspiracy is low. Especially since they didn't (and literally couldn't) know the long term effects of "forever chemicals".
The real conspiratorial behavior comes AFTER the knowledge that PFAS or PFOA are harmful, and what actions, or inactions, of the companies and government are taken.
Remember there are people in our government (not all, but enough) who actively want LESS government: less regulation, less taxation, leas oversight. AND there are a vast quantity of companies that want the very same thing: unfettered freedom to do whatever the fuck they want, without consequence.
And that handful of government employees will easily be bribed or influenced by special interest lobby groups, businesses, "think tanks", etc. (funded and/or founded by the aforementioned businesses).
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Getting a NEW Teflon pan is less than ideal, and should be avoided. You can keep the one you have, and keep using it until the nonstick properties degrade, then toss it.
A great video about this from MinuteFood: https://youtu.be/R1hbV3EzOD4?si=bQZAQsRWLgX9dyJX
And the associated MinuteEarth video: https://youtu.be/H3aFzQdWQTg?si=bVIBp4tm_uLi7ScQ
Just cook with stainless steel, learn to cook by mixing butter and olive oil, treating the pan right and it'll act just like teflon
Just don't throw away your Teflon pan "because". It's totally okay to use it on normal use cases. But absolutely avoid buying a new one when the time comes.
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Cast iron gang checking in
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The kids are also full of lead but its alot more short term
Jokes on you, my house still has some lead pipes
Companies full of tax dollars, watching from a nearby skyscraper, as they poison us all.
I want to get off Mr bones wild ride.
What the fuck is Teflon?
Also known as PTFE, it is a plastic substance that has an insanely low coefficient of friction and is thus incredibly fucking useful for so many things. And much like the last weirdly good at doing everything substance (asbestos) it turns out it really should not have been put in everything, but its probably not quite as bad as asbestos.
And Teflon really isn't the issue, it's the binding PFAS or PFOA that causes health issues.
PFOA was the surfactant that was used to keep Teflon in an emulsion during coating processes. It was replaced in the 2000s with an alternate product branded GenX that was supposed to be safer, but in actuality ended up being more toxic than PFOA.
In either case, the main exposure risk is to those surfactant chemicals, typically due to groundwater contamination near a plant or via occupational exposure. Once in a finished coating, Teflon itself is essentially inert unless you heat it up several hundred degrees, so existing nonstick pans and other finished products don't pose too much risk.
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Slippery shit
Polymer bonded to frying pans to make them non-stick.
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