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Linux suffers from a lot of unaddressed security problems. (programming.dev)
submitted 1 week ago by Pro@programming.dev to c/linux@lemmy.world
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  • Not all distros ship SELinux and the ones that do, don't actually configure it securely.

  • New users are expected to keep copying and pasting commands from their browsers to their terminal which compromises some Linux security defenses.

  • KDE, GNOME and Sway are the only functional Desktop Environments/Window Managers that support Wayland all, while the Other DEs are not even close to shipping with Wayland.

  • Most if not all of the Linux Distros in 2025 ship with Grub bootloader, which suffers from a lot of problems, instead of using the bootloaders that does not support BIOS and will improve the reliability of booting and provide a more stable experience.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform 13 points 1 week ago

Yea this is a very unpopular opinion.

Not all distros ship SELinux and the ones that do, don't actually configure it securely.

Convenience issues.

New users are expected to keep copying and pasting commands from their browsers to their terminal which compromises some Linux security defenses.

Everyone literally says not to do that, including popular content creators.

KDE, GNOME and Sway are the only functional Desktop Environments/Window Managers that support Wayland all, while the Other DEs are not even close to shipping with Wayland.

Wayland is massive and probably will never actually be finished. Also implementing it basically means rewriting the whole DE (not really but it's a ton of work).

Most if not all of the Linux Distros in 2025 ship with Grub bootloader, which suffers from a lot of problems, instead of using the bootloaders that does not support BIOS and will improve the reliability of booting and provide a more stable experience.

That's called "planned obsolescence".

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is SELinux really that important for the average desktop user? I mean we have a lot of concepts like different system user accounts which run services, namespaces...

And I feel we'd need more sandboxing and a permission system for desktop apps so they have to ask before reading your Documents directory and access the webcam. That'd do way more than SELinux as is.... And we kind of have none of that to begin with. (...except software installed as Flatpaks, to some degree.)

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago
  • Redundant (it's not the only security mechanism)
  • False / misleading / not-a-Linux issue (more of an internet culture issue).
  • FUD. Wayland is not the only way to go; X11 is pretty mature.
  • FUD with intent to sell Microsoft's "Secure Boot".

Nice try but doesn't deserve wasting more time on. -4.4/10.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Okay, I call bs on the Wayland part

When was the last time you suffered from a exploit on X11? Most distros even setup X11 to be localhost only

X11 has a lot of problems, but claiming it is insecure by default is kinda bs

Changing from UDP to TCP when you aren't using TLS at all doesn't solve the issue

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not all distros ship SELinux and the ones that do, don’t actually configure it securely.

You're welcome to work with distro maintainers to fix this instead of just complaining about it.

New users are expected to keep copying and pasting commands from their browsers to their terminal which compromises some Linux security defenses.

This is a big problem

Most if not all of the Linux Distros in 2025 ship with Grub bootloader, which suffers from a lot of problems, instead of using the bootloaders that does not support BIOS and will improve the reliability of booting and provide a more stable experience.

You're welcome to work with distro maintainers to fix this instead of just complaining about it.

[–] Vintor@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Pointing out problems is not complaining. If you expect everyone to help fix something instead of even mentioning it, then get used to people not talking about (and therefore other, more technically versed, people not discovering) problems anymore.

(You are welcome to help everyone get to the technical level needed to fix problems instead of just complaining about their lack of knowledge. I mean all problems ever mentioned anywhere by anyone.)