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[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 14 points 13 hours ago

One of my Canadian friends called it "Alligator Auschwitz". I think we should all call it that exclusively and incessantly.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Cant get tired of saying: TOLD YOU SO!

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

This is fucked, yall, for real.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 20 hours ago

The Simpsons should live in one of these now to reflect the changing times.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And just like that, conservatives have brought us back to some of the most disgusting times in history.

Conservatives: Making America Great again

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Making Holocaust great again

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 11 points 23 hours ago

This is the absolute worst time to be vindicated in your "radical end of the world" predictions. I hope everyone who said people were "just overreacting" are welcoming the leopards into their homes with smiling faces.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Oh nice, we've discovered new photos of the WWII concentration camps for Japanese Americans."

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago

I feel absolutely sick to my stomach.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It sickens me that we've not only gotten here, but we managed to do it quickly enough that there's a living public figure who survived those camps

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

fucking disgrace, all these just to detain migrants. Meanwhile in Wisconin in 2020, a white kid shooting 3 black men gets off scot free. I forgot his name, the chubby kid with a puchable face.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago

remember the white guy that shot up a bunch of asian massage parlors, and they call it "he was having a bad day"

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe not just migrants, Trump was literally quoted as saying something like "even some people born here are not so great, that might be the next step." And other officials have already hinted at mechanisms for stripping citizenship from US born people that "pose a threat to the US".

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

found it, kyle fucking rittenhouse. Jesus that case made my blood boiled.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If it's any consolation, he has no education, no job prospects, and is getting pushed out of the conservative talk show circuit. He will be destitute soon (if he isn't already).

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

Still would rather him have a length of cord round his throat.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Starting to look like those 3rd world countries we've seen pictures of our whole lives.

Welcome to the future conservatives want.

This is why you don't do dipshit things like vote 3rd party or abstain from voting as a form of protest when so much is on the line.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The bigger issue is that somewhere near half the US is OK with this. Sure, maybe some people could have done more to prevent it. But, there were also untapped voters on the other side who fully supported this kind of thing, but were too lazy to vote.

The US is in a crisis not because of who is in charge, but because roughly half the population supports this kind of thing. It could be that some of them are actually not horrible people, it's just that they've been misled by Fox News, right-wing echo chambers, and other sources of information that have blinded them to the truth. But, a lot of them are gleeful participants in this new world, and will fully support it until they're the ones being sent to the camps.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's hard to believe that any level of watching fox news would make a healthy decent person okay with literal concentration camps

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Because that's not what they're being told. I haven't watched, but I assume it's more like "These rapists, murderers and drug dealing gang members are going to be put in a comfortable detention camp that's escape-proof because of the alligators."

I assume they think that it's only the worst of the worst that are being sent to these camps. They believe Trump's narrative that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a member of MS13 who had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles. They believe that the people being rounded up are gangsters and terrorists, and if there's occasionally a story of someone who wasn't a gangster being deported, they think that's an exception. So, while the detention might be difficult, they think it's literally protecting innocent American lives.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Somewhere between 30-40 percent of the population doesn't vote, so if it's any consolation it's only about 30 percent who are for this. Not even factoring those who are so propagandized that they basically exist in a different reality and have no clue what the fuck is going on.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Somewhere between 30-40 percent of the population doesn't vote, so if it's any consolation it's only about 30 percent who are for this

How do you figure? You think the 30-40 percent who didn't vote are against it? What evidence do you have for that?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

In such a situation where information is limited the best course to take is that no opinion exists at all. Remember there is a greatly propagandandized fiction that politics don't matter, that's not even factoring in folks who for example are too overworked to care and other such similar factors. That's not even getting into various forms of voter suppression.

I'd say that at worst it's what may be considered civil negligence, but being pro something assumes intent or active participation. If I don't stop someone from doing a mass shooting simply because I didn't notice them because I'm tired or focused on other things does that make me assistant to the shooting?

Remember knowledge is power both in its acquisition and it's suppression, there's a lot of folks with lots of money enabling the suppression of knowledge. Not in a UFO conspiracy theory way but in a knowing you are being fucked over by politicians and not circumstances sort of way.

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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

People are just dumb, plain and simple. So when the vote forces you to choose between far right politics, and far right politics+racism+shaking up a broken system, I can sympathize with why they voted for a third party, or even why they voted for shake up the system.

What I don't understand is the smaller group of dipshits, who don't understand even the basics of causality. Who will shout to whoever will listen that Donald Trump is the fault of that small group of third party voters, and not ENTIRELY the responsibility of the Dems being ineffective, woe is me, deep right, billionaire agenda, pretend to care but do nothing, pieces of useless shit that they are, so much so that an orange conman won the election. Stop fucking pretending the that the choice between cutting off your dick, and cutting off your dick and eating it, are valid enough choices that your typical uninformed, heavily propagandized voter, should definitely have obviously chose cutting off their dick but not eating it.

Lets not even get into the fact that the GOP can only be this extremely far right because the Dems have themselves moved so far right that the rubber band between them doesn't have to stretch barely at all.

But yeah lets blame the third party voters.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But yeah lets blame the voters.

I am. And will continue to do so.

Our government is a reflection of our electorate. If some dumb assholes who have never bothered looking up the voting history of both parties and the economic trends related to both parties and the criminal conviction history of both parties so they can see that one option is way, way, way, way, way, way better than the other, then I'm going to call them dumb assholes, because they are. Especially if those dumb assholes continue being dumb assholes while one party is openly embracing fascism, to the point they even publicize a fucking fascist manifesto leading up to an election.

Politicians lie. They will continue to lie....forever. It is 100% the responsibility of voters to do their due diligence and do their fucking homework, and vote intelligently. If not, then they will lose their democracy, which appears to be the direction we're heading.

Anyone who isn't a dumb asshole knew that there was exactly 0% chance a 3rd party could win, so logic states you vote for the option that is best. And again, if you do your homework, one of those options is absolutely better than the other and that has been proven beyond doubt to us every single day since Jan 20.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

So you think the Dems suck because voters are dumb? I think the dems suck because your opinion is so widespread.

I think Dems suck because they know anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together knows they are the better choice, which means they never have to do anything to help us ever, just as long as they dont ruin the country as much as the GOP does. I believe this mindset of "vote blue or die" enables them. In fact if that mindset prevails America is doomed because if we dont force the Dems to completly change, or create enough left leaning anger against them to be replaced by another party, then the GOP will keep ruining the country every chance they get, and the Dems will continue doing nothing to undo it.

Regardless it doesn't matter, America is already so horrifically fucked. The GOP are about to sell what little chance we had at a decent future away and then fuck off to other countries on golden parachutes. Nothing short of massive political uprising from the left has any chance of righting the ship before the entry country buckles under the weight of 50 years of crony capitalism.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] vane@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I just read what you linked. $450 million annually for 5000 people. Isn't that 90 000 per person per year ?

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

$1000/yr to rent a bunk in a tent and 3 bowls of gruel per day. $89000 into the bosses pockets.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah incarceration is big business and we lose tons and tons of tax money just keeping people alive in buildings against their will. Thats sorta the point I bet, that aside it looks so much like a commercial chicken coop.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Literally would be cheaper to just give people ubi

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Australia spends $4m per year, per person to lock refugees up in Nauru, and $3.5m per person, per year on Christmas island

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Soon the showers get installed. And we all know how that goes.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 18 points 1 day ago

Concentration camps

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We have a better A name to describe it than Alcatraz.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I haven't heard anyone say Alligator Auschwitz yet, but at the rate we're going it might be appropriate.

Edit: Ah I'm too late, I saw it further down

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The people doing this are evil. What can I do, I’m trapped in NYC by a job I can’t leave, and I have a family, so I’m not going to be a guerilla… but I give it 3 months before idiots on the right start posting their Florida gas chambers

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 23 hours ago

There are still things you can do that will drastically help.

  1. find local communities and get involved to make connections, this is essential, as resisting alone without a community makes you much less effective, and easier to suppress. Any real resistance requires community.
  2. We can effect things drastically with a general strike. This targets the establishment's income streams, and can bring a fascist government to its knees if done on a large enough scale.
  3. Contact a union and attempt to unionize your workplace so that the general strike is even more effective (plus, ya know, better pay and working conditions as a bonus!)

This method would not only work in the US, but anywhere in the world.

Union Suggestions:

  1. Continuing to participate in publicly visible resistance demonstrations like 50501 (the next one is July 17th) to encourage others to stand up with you and prove to that there are millions of others who will join them in the fight. A large part of Nazi Germany's success in taking over the country was a lack of massive public demonstrations against the new regime, making people feel helpless and afraid to take a stand.

If we put in the work, we can resist this and we can win. Look at how effective these methods were when used in Chile in 2019.. If we completely reject the political system and rebel on a mass scale, there is NOTHING they can do to stop us.

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

At some point people are going to start having to risk their comfortable lives to resist

[–] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Being trapped by a job does not sound like a life of comfort. Leaving my job would mean being flat broke in two weeks and then starving. If you work paycheck to paycheck, you literally cannot afford to risk your lifestyle to resist.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Nazis used wood. Other than that, I don't see much difference here.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wait, "alamy" claims ownership of the picture?! As in monetizing the fucking Holocaust!?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

capitalism has no mortality

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Evil. I fucking hate how I'm living through a major historical event like this

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when this is over, could we use this to house all the ICE thugs and MAGA politicians?

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