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[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Antivax but do random shrooms/lsd/blow from strangers and buy their weed illegally

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

but we dont know whats in those vaccines lol

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 31 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

They really came out of the wood work when the covid vaccines were released. Friends and acquaintances who were there munching down e's of unknown origin back in early 2000s suddenly had a different stance about putting something "unknown" in them.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 4 hours ago

Pre pandemic i know one real life antivaxxer. Vut even then, kinda not really, he did vaccinate his kids, but he didn't like that he was forced too for school. Some real "don't tell me what to do, because i was gonna do it anyway" energy. To me antivaxxers were just the butt of online jokes.

Post pandemic, i could name so many antivaxxers, it's insane. And they all have the dumbest takes imaginable. And they always try to convince you, but i never thought for a second that this person might be onto something. The last guy who talked to me about it was a friend of my dad. I know him for a ling time, but not well at all. He said that the pandemic was all planned, but not enough people died, so they have another one coming, and that's why he's not getting vaccinated. Wait, the government tries to kill people, it didn't work as well as they thought, but they also try to vaccinate people so they don't die? Why do they try to kill people? And his aswer was basically: "many people believe that." Motherfucker, i know you, you hang out with 5 people who are 60 to 70 years old and they are all reclusive alcoholics. It doesn't really matter what they believe.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 11 hours ago

and then started following RFK JR, J ROGAN, J PETERSON and lastly trump. i knew a family member that sort of did this. he was literally scoffing at the vaccine a few months ago.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

I ask antivaxers I know if they ever turned down a medicine prescribed by their doctor other than the one the media told them to fear?

[–] M137@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, the only two antivaxxers I know (more did know) have fried their brains to mush with drugs so them believing that shit isn't surprising. I did lots of drugs in my 20s and knew a lot of people who did even more than me, and the two people who were always the "worst" with their use are the only ones I am aware of who are antivaxxers (In Sweden, it's not common here at all). They'd lick a literally turd if they saw someone sprinkle some unknown powder on it just for the chance of it making them high in any way, but they would fight to their death if anyone tried to vaccinate them specifically only with a covid vaccine.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 4 hours ago

I know a guy who did, still does and deals with every drug imaginable. Really nice guy, honestly. But he refused to get vaccinated, he bought a fake covid certificate or some shit for like 1000 bucks or whatever, because he didn't want that unknown substance in his body

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

brain damage from drugs, strokes and other injuries or disease is known to turn people into a looney right winger or a conspiracy nut. fetterman, sorbo, jim cavaziel is a good example of stroke to alt-right, they were shitty people before, but stroke just disinhibit thier "closetness"

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's my granddaughter.

Fully vaxxed EXCEPT for covid. Calls the first (of many) times she caught as 'when I almost died'. She's currently injecting one of the fun crop of weight loss drugs without a second thought because there aren't any TikTok influencers who are telling her it's dangerous.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ozempic hospitalized my ex for 12 days and he's now in a class action lawsuit against the makers because it's a known side effect that wasn't warned against. It's not something to play with at all.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What's the side effect if you don't mind sharing?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Not at all. He's diabetic; Ozempic basically caused his gastric muscles to stop working, which is called gastroparesis. He began vomiting and having diarrhea over a period of days, and became unable to take his diabetic meds because he couldn't keep anything down. I came home and found him basically comatose, and he was in a state called euglycemic diabetic ketoacidosis, which is a new thing with all the Ozempic type drugs, where your sugars aren't all that high but the severity of your condition is masked by the Ozempic, and you end up overproducing ketones in your blood because your sugar is out of control. The ketosis part reversed quickly with IV insulin, but the gastroparesis and associated esophagitis from all the vomiting meant he had to stay in hospital for quite some time. He has permanent damage to his gastric system. The makers of the drug didn't disclose this and it's turned up in several others; my GP friend had two patients with the same situation. So they're all in a lawsuit, and I'm super leery of these drugs.

https://www.med.ubc.ca/news/weight-loss-drugs-linked-to-stomach-paralysis-other-serious-gastrointestinal-conditions/

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Much obliged. Thank you.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Fat phobia has killed so many and messed up so much research imo. We need fats and fat soluble vitamins, but in the right proportions to each other. I understand Ozempic is ostensibly for diabetes (and obv idk anything about your husband or his weight or why he took it, not assuming he has fat phobia himself), but rapid weight loss like that means people are likely going without adequate vitamins for quite some time, causing the body to eat its own tissues like bones, bone marrow, muscle, liver, and so on, to carry on the most important tasks for life.

Gastroparesis is often associated with vitamin d, b12, iron, and magnesium deficiencies. Fat soluble vitamins have a ton of downstream effects on other vitamins and each other, and many actually help with diabetes.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7469006/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34440929/

https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-023-00840-1

https://diabetes.org/food-nutrition/diabetes-vitamins-supplements/low-vitamin-d-insulin-resistance

They are not putting the Ozempic patients on vitamin therapy or even monitoring fat soluble vitamins afaik. BTW, the pancreas helps with processing fat soluble vitamins by making lipase, not just glucose/insulin. So anything that affects the pancreas, which Ozempic does, has the potential to affect fat soluble vitamins as well which have a LOT of downstream effects that have been catalogued for decades but doctors just kinda ignore??? Due to fat phobia.

I don't blame you for suing, they are selling you malnutrition in a pill because they hate fat cells

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

His GP was honestly just trying to get his diabetes under control, and had no reason to think this would happen. He's not obese in the slightest and has never been more than 5 pounds overweight, he just has bad genetics for it. I just think that it's been marketed so heavily it seems to be a go to and we're just starting to really see what it does.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Right, again, I'm not saying HE is fat phobic or even fat - but that the makers of the drugs and the prescribers ARE, and they are not choosing to monitor fat soluble vitamin status as standard for the treatment, which imo is extremely warranted. Also missed the detail that he was your EX, sorry, I thought he was your current partner

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

My favorite hypocrite is Jenny McCarthy who obviously has never met a cosmetic injectable she doesn't like but was one of the foremost anti-vax idiots out there.

Botulism toxin injected directly into my face - 🌞🎶😁👄👅

A vaccine preventing measles mumps and rubella - 😵‍💫☠️💀❤️‍🩹👎

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Botox is actually super helpful for a number of legitimate medical reasons, which a lot of people don't know. Migraines, limb contractures, anal fissures as a few examples.m

I hope Jenny McCarthy stubs her toe.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

Can we swap that with falls feet first into a wood chipper at 75 percent power?

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[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Just goes to show you how it’s not a rational decision driven by evidence and consideration like they reflexively say, it’s just reactionary nonsense spread by traitors. I will never forgive traitors for what they have done to dismantle society in the modern age.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 hours ago

Vaccines are required because most viruses can infect virtually anyone. Ozempic is not because most people are not overweight and many who are are able to loose the weight naturally. You can use your drug however you like but please stop making these insane comparisons

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