Upvote for being unpopular its a condiment for a kids pallet point blank. Haven't used it in over a decade.
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Downvoting because ketchup is basically the number one most used condiment. Saying ketchup is yummy is the antithesis of an unpopular opinion.
I don't think top tier has to mean yummy. Coke is popular but no one's putting it in the same tier as a 50 year old bottle of wine
I am, don't like either.
Ok good. If you run across an old valuable wine send it to me and I'll trade you for a coke
Considering how well ketchup sells, I had to throw the down vote here, even though the post is otherwise excellent.
And I'm definitely with you on the exact recipe being the real key. Your typical generic is going to be over sweet and over vinegared because sugar and vinegar are usually cheaper than tomatoes.
Good ketchup, and I agree that Heinz is kinda the standard for a big brand, is not often found in big brands. Great ketchup is almost always going to be small batch because you can only standardize tomatoes so much. You have to tweak the sugar, vinegar, and spices to balance things. Anything much over a hundred gallons and you're fucked because there's just no way to be both great and standardized.
The only exception to that in the condiment world I know of is French's yellow mustard. They have somehow managed to make their mustard consistent between batches, over decades, and it is the best yellow mustard across the board. They do sacrifice some depth of flavor in doing so, but you can't make a yellow mustard that matches the flavor in small batches. I'm not saying everyone will like it, but ifyou like yellow mustard, you aren't going to find better.
What makes it so popular is the crazy amounts of sugar that are hidden by its tang
We tried ketchup with less sugar… it was bad. Really bad.
Wait til you hear about sweet and sour sauce.
Do you remember purple ketchup ?
And blue margarine
I once read an article that talked about how only an insane person makes homemade ketchup. It poisoned my mind for like more than a decade.
But then I said fuck it and I just decided to make some, and it was amazing, and now I want it on so many things and I could never ever go back to bottled.
You'll just take tomatoes, fire some spices in there, a little bit of vinegar and cane sugar. Some people like malt vinegar, I use quarter of a drop of white wine vinegar and some lemon juice. I like to play with different heat levels and different types of peppers.
I used to hate ketchup until I worked as a restaurant that made it's own and GODDAMN did that change my mind.
Stewed the fresh tomatoes with herbs, salt, malt vinegar and just a bit of molasses. So yes, ketchup is a great condiment.
Unpopular opinion: ketchup is disgusting and should not be put on anything, under any circumstances.
Hot dogs? Mustard.
Burgers? Mayo.
Fries? Nothing.
Anything else? BBQ.
Fries? Nothing.
Fries? Also Mayo.
Anything else? BBQ.
Many are ketchup based, and while better then ketchup the non-ketchup based ones are miles better.
I do enjoy ketchup on a burger but it doesn't compare to one with mayo and a noce juicy slice of tomato!
Tomato with additives and +20% added sugar. No, thanks.
You mean french fries sauce because that's all it's good for.
You mean meatloaf topper, because that's all it's good for.
Fries need to be dipped in mayo.
I just used it in a Jamaican dish, because it brings so much flavor.
I could use tomato sauce or diced tomatoes, but ketchup is just so much better.
(I didn't come up with this, the recipe is from a chef).
Protip: substitute sriracha anywhere you would use ketchup.