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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 131 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wanted to learn more so i went looking for an article. Heres a pretty good write up. https://www.sciencealert.com/flowers-are-spreading-in-antarctica-as-summer-temperatures-soar

TLDR: Lots of flowering plants, moss and algae spreading. In March, temperatures near the south pole reached 39 °C above normal for three days in a row, hitting a peak of -10 °C (14 °F). Warm enough for researchers to walk around in shorts and shirtless....In Antarctica. Yeah were fucked.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I find it hilarious that they're like "It's 14F! Break out the shorts and T-shirts!" Meanwhile anyone anywhere else (except the Arctic regions) is like "This is pretty fucking cold".

[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It likely feels warmer. Antarctica is almost entirely desert. The "dry heat" argument works for cold, too.

I've been outside in a t-shirt and jeans in northern Greenland (also polar desert) when it was below freezing and was completely comfortable. I could have hung around out there all day if the day wasn't four months long. I like the cold and I've got extra mass to keep me warm, though.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I suspect the sunshine bouncing off all the snow helps too

[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe at the south pole. There's little to no snow around where I was in northern Greenland. It gets above freezing up there during the summer and it almost never snows, so what accumulation you do get is actually from snow being blown off the ice cap rather than down from the sky. So it takes a while to build back up in the winter.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm from the North East US and it gets pretty damn humid here (somehow it's been more humid than places with a tropical climate like Miami, Florida), which extends into the winter. The high humidity, combined with low temperatures (0-35F, not including wind chill) and moderate winds means a damn cold winter.

I was out in Denver, Colorado a few years ago during the late fall, early winter. They had a freak snowstorm which dropped their temperature from like 65F to 25F over night. I didn't know what to bring so I brought all my winter gear. I got there and was like "This is nothing!" because the humidity was low. I was outside in jeans and a heavy/double lined hoodie and was fine. Normally in NYC I'd be wearing an Arctic level jacket due to the wind and humidity.

My buddy was in the army and stationed in Fairbanks, Alaska. After being there for a year he came home for Christmas and showed up at my house in shorts, sandals, and a hoodie. It was like 30F, he said it felt like summer to him 😂

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[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

This is Minnesota

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

I had hoped you just missed a decimal point but it seems you did not.

I've lived on the coast of Australia most of my life, but I moved a good couple of hundred kilometres inland last year. I'm really looking forward to having waterfront property again pretty soon.

Hell, it's already too hot for human habitation here most of the year. I might as well enjoy the view before I croak.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn researchers walking around in shirts at -10°C??

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 93 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A reminder for context: it's not summer yet in Antarctica. Summer doesn't start until December. It's still supposed to be cold.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

instead of adding ice this winter, they lost ice. during antarctic winter.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 2 years ago (7 children)

so what are you fellas gonna do after the water wars?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

raiders can have a little pillage as a treat

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

After???? Are you all planning on surviving the after wars? I’ll probably be taken out by a rusty nail after medical breaks down.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d be dead pretty quick without insulin assuming adhd doesn’t kill me first

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right? My RA won't kill me without meds, but I'll wish it would. Now my regular infections and allergic reaction on the other hand...

[–] Flughoernchen@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My migraine won't kill me either, but being completely knocked out every five or so days isn't going to do me much good either.

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[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

There's people who see the world all lowering birth rates and predicting a heavily geriatric global population in 50 years time, and who are already starting the "live life, suicide by 60" death cult mentality. The water wars would just kill even more young people, so I'm afraid this death cult thing is going to be more fact than fiction.

As someone with t1, I’d just die in 3-4 days without medication. It’s like a handy auto-self destruct.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess I need to stop being scared to get my bad teeth pulled.

Might have to do it the old fashioned way if I don’t do it now, that is if I survive it.

My god I’m miserable. What kind of coward is more frightened of dentists than this hell?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

You're not cowardly for fearing dentists. The medical industry is one of the reasons why society broke down.

[–] ranoss@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Time to start canning the dryland.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After? Probably still be corpsing. I just hope I can take some rich fucks with me before I go.

[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You can take them out now if you want to go!

[–] Asnabel@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Probably going to be dead after few days of war starting.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Dunno, but im going to start collecting books

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

I plan to volunteer with a corporation in the bio wars after that!

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah let's go heat death

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What flowers? New species or one that crossed the ocean?

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.sciencealert.com/striking-expansion-of-two-antarctic-flowering-plants-is-a-climate-warning

From the article:

Flowering plants in the Antarctic region are rapidly expanding, scientists say, indicating the continuing effects of climate change on the continent. The findings suggest we may have reached a tipping point in this fragile, remote ecosystem.

A new study of this plant expansion looked at the two flowering plants native to Antarctica, Deschampsia antarctica and Colobanthus quitensis. Researchers measured the growth and expansion of these plants on a small subantarctic island called Signy Island from 2009 to 2019.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok just wondering if it was some long frozen plantlife that just thawed out recently.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Nah just two full months earlier than it should have happened

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some seeds are carried place to place on the winds. They probably came from Australia or southern Chile or Argentina or some such place.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They've been doing that for a decade

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah pretty sure flowers would have already had to have been there to be blooming. Not a lot of birds migrating to Antarctica spreading seeds.

[–] Banana_man@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about African swallows?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Well, I think in this instance, European swallows seen more likely given the distance, but either way, we'd probably need to consider them laden swallows for the purpose of our calculations...

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

That made me curious and it looks like yes, birds do migrate there: https://polar-latitudes.com/wildlife/migratory-birds/

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Important notice: Fossil fuel companies have shifted the narrive they push from "climate change isn't real" to "climate change is real but there's nothing we can do about it". We can absolutely do something about it: fight it like the existential threat that it is. Whatever power you can levy in life whether at home, at work, at the voting booth, with your investments, or in the streets: use it.

[–] michaelrose@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is literal fake news. Climate change is certainly a thing. Flowers blooming in Antarctica currently is not. Careful about spreading lies if we clothe the truth(climate change) in lies dumb people will think its all lies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/10/07/false-claim-photo-shows-flowers-blooming-in-antarctica-fact-check/71067338007/

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

This is literal fake news. Climate change is certainly a thing. Flowers blooming in Antarctica currently is not.

Uhm, your own source says differently though?

While a 2022 study did find a global warming-related expansion in the range of two Antarctic flowering plants, the photo does not show those plant species.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's joever

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