Thanks for the explanation. I just a have a question regarding the communication between lemmy and mastodon, In the "Fediverse" paragraph you included a visual representation that shows a connection between these two platforms marked with "activity pub". However as you have mentioned in the kbin paragraph there doesn't seem to be any way to interact with mastodon through lemmy. Why is that? Is it just a limit in the interface because of the different nature of posts (microblogs on mastodon and long posts on lemmy) or are there other reasons like technical issues preventing them from using activity pub and interacting with each other?
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You can see Lemmy posts from Mastodon. For example, this one.
Interesting thanks for linking it. I was under the impression that both platforms couldnt see each other yet. I'll edit the post.
I've kept my Mastodon and Lemmy accounts seperated. I only subscribed to a Lemmy community on my Mastodon account by accident once. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. I don't think a Lemmy instance has a way to even display Mastodon toots though. On Mastodon, posts and comments are just toots and replies. Messy, but as long as there isn't too much activity, usable.
I think kbin might handle it a little better, but I haven't gotten around to trying kbin yet. kbin does "micro-blogging" and "link aggregating" together.
Very clarifying info. Thanks a lot.
Super informative. I bounced off of Mastodon when I tried it, so a lot of fediverse concepts have been alien to me. This helped a lot.
I hope this is ok to ask, but: suppose this gets popular enough that monied interests will want to try various influence ops here as they have done elsewhere. Is there enough metadata available that spammy or suspicious activity can be detected and guarded against?
I keep thinking back to posts on Reddit by some guy who was convinced the lack of posting and commenting anonymity would be horrible for people. Horrible for spammers and influence ops, I assumed, but without actually understanding in what way.
Ayyyy, the updated post is here! Ty for your hard work.
This is a phenomenal explanation
Great post, I wish I knew how to save it for later. Bookmark button in wefwef doesn't seem to do anything.
im just replying to lock this post in ur inbox
Well that was very thoughtful of you.
Can I ask dumb starter questions in this thread? Love the idea, but still trying to figure it out. I have an account on fmhy but don't know how to interact with other instances. I use liftoff for pretty much everything Lemmy related right now
Hey there!
From the home screen, at the top shpuld be 'local@lemmy.fmhy.ml.'. You can also select 'all@lemmy.fmhy.ml'. That will show you a feed from everyone FMHY is federated with.
If two inatances you like block each other, you can get accounts on both. The entries have a 'via fmhy..' Or 'via sh.itjust.works' for whatever instances you have listed in your configuration. Long-press on instance name in configuration to delete it if you don't want it. I deleted lemmy.world, because I can just see lemmy.world stuff in 'all' via fmhy.
Technically, it's not federation, it's confederation, but we have some bad history with that word.
That's a good question, I'll update the post with it an answer to it as well.
On liftoff, assuming you have signed in, at the very top you should see local@lemmy.fmhy.ml. if you click on it, you should see a drop down with instance names and 3 options of subscribed, local and all for each.
Subscribed would show you the feed with the communities you've subscried to, local will show you content from the communities hosted on your home instance, and all will show you every post from every instance we are federated with. That's basically the r/all equaivalent of lemmy and what you should browse to interact with other instances.
Very interesting, thank you for the write-up!
I am redirected to a politics post if I click on the link of the answer "how to discover Lemmy communities". This one: https://lemmy.world/post/133647
huh that's weird it seems like lemmy being buggy, clicking the link worked for me.
Anyway here's a direct link: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/133647
Thatโs a great explanation. Thanks.
Regarding your own instance to watch whole fediverse: on other thread someone was asking why feeds are different on different instsnces, and someone answered that you only see communities from other instance if someone from your instance is subscribed to that community. Was it wrong?
No, they are corrrect, I guess I should have added this part in the post too. The way federation works on lemmy is only after someone searches and subcribes to a community for the first time from another instance, only then is the information about an instance fetched.
This is done this way to prevent flooding and overloading the local instance with every single other instance at once (and to not waste bandwidth connecing with spam intances). So if you set up your own personal instance, you'll need to search interesting communities once yourself to view them later (or set up a script to do something like it).