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Britain has not concluded Israel's actions in Gaza are genocide (www.reuters.com)

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"As per the Genocide Convention, the crime of genocide occurs only where there is specific 'intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group'," he said in the letter seen by Reuters.

"The government has not concluded that Israel is acting with that intent."

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[+] mnhs1@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The root cause is people too stupid to live in the real world and not mythology.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Given that the founders and early adopters of Zionism were predominantly atheist, that is not the root cause of anything.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think water is a large part of the conflict, but its rarely talked about. Israel steals a great deal of water from all of its neighbors, specifically because they believe they are entitled to a higher standard of living. Having pools, lush gardens, and even growing tomatoes and oranges when that makes very little sense in the desert. Agriculture is literally 2% of their GDP, a rounding error, yet they waste massive amounts of water on it.

On the flip side, Palestinians in Gaza are the most water-poor people in the world, making it by on 1/10th (or less, in many cases) of the average water used by Israelis on any given day. This is despite the fact that a major aquifer is beneath their territory, but the Israelis bleed that aquifer dry from the territory that they illegally occupy. Similarly, they hijack virtually all of the water from the Jordan river and send it through the National Water Carrier before it ever reaches Jordan. They have a third source of water from another aquifer, but it is much smaller than the western aquifer, and desalination is probably more expensive than committing genocide against their neighbors.

Were getting to a point where the Jordan is hardly more than a small waste-filled creek, and the western aquifer is getting overtapped by their absurd usage of the water. As the water table drops, they will need to be further inside Gaza in order to tap the western aquifer because their settlements are largely at higher elevations. So, before they inevitably lose the water they “need” to keep wasting so much water, they are using the specter of national security as a pretext for wiping out the strip and thereby securing access to the largest source of fresh water

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If people want to admit it was always about fascism and land theft rather rather than religion, thats great.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, that is the point I was trying to make.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago

come on lets give the romans their dues

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, OK. Thank you, England, for helping to create a far more clear definition of "genocide".

Now I understand that, when a leader says "they deserve to all die" openly on national news, while actively carpet bombing them, it doesn't mean they have an intent to destroy a certain group.

Looking back I realise how very silly it was to mistake something so direct and obvious as genocide.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

So Israel is just lobbing bombs in at random while starving them, and accidentally destroying a national ethnic group?

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Basically they say that you're free to genocide everything as long as the~~y~~ intent is not advertised. They also say that any form of protest is a crime, right. What a lovely country Britain is.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

But the intent is advertised. Politicians of the ruling coalition have publicly referred to biblical myths of peoples getting exterminated by the Hebrews when referring to the Palestinians.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

"We've investigated our co conspirators and determined they've done nothing wrong"

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's strange. The International Association of Genocide Scholars explicitly said that Israel's actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of Genocide under Article II of the UN Genocide Convention.

https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza-FINAL.pdf

I guess we can trust a government that is actively supporting Israel and repressing protests to be telling us the truth, and a Prime Minister who said it was ok to cut off electricity and water to two million people in Gaza.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Duh they’re just setting up a resort for the Palestinians /s

Jesus fucking Christ

[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

So as long as Israel states the destruction of the Palestinians is an entirely foreseeable and necessary byproduct, but not it's primary goal, it's cool. Dumb as hell

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 3 weeks ago

That’s the moderate position. They have also refrained from denouncing claims of genocide as an antisemitic libel and joining US sanctions against the ICC, so they’re walking a tightrope here.

[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

David Lammy deserves the gallows. He should be dancing up there along with the rest of the Zionists.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 0 points 3 weeks ago

"You haven't beeeeen?"