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My serial killer trait is that I use vi instead of vim cause I'm too lazy to type the extra character. Tho if for some reason, vi tab completed to vim, I'd probably use vim
alias v=vim. There, just saved you two keystrokes.
{vi} = 2
{vim} = 3
{v=vim} = 5
I'd need to run vi at least 5 times to have a net gain in saving keystrokes. I'm typically in effemerial systems created by the users of our env, so rarely am I going to gain those strokes back
But also, why am I trying to apply logic to this? I'll often cat a file before editing it. This shit is just illogical idiosyncrasies I've picked up over the years. I'm probably creating posthoc justifications for insane things I do cause it's hard to override muscle memory
effemerial is new to me
Here's a link I found that might be good if you are interested in more:
https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/ephemeral-idempotent-and-immutable-infrastructure/
https://guymorton.medium.com/persistent-and-ephemeral-infrastructure-as-code-in-aws-42b33939dcf1
There are different levels of effemeriality. The simplest example I use daily would be an autoscaling group in AWS. Especially if you use Spot Instances to save money, thi gs may scale in and out whenever.
So if a development team creates a new autoscaling group and I need to get into an instance to test something, unless I add stuff to their IaC, I'm stuck with their configuration. I need to assume that every time I ssh into one of those instances, it's a brand new instance. But it'd be a big challenge for me to go to their repo and make a PR to alias a command whenever an instance in that resource is created
Stuff can be even more temporary if it's something like an ECS task which creates a container with a read only filesystem only when a task is needed to be done. But I don't want to get too deep in the weeds (or deeper than I already have)
terraform workspace will at least stick around for a while so you might be in and out of the same system multiple times.
He's commenting on your misspelling. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ephemeral
Shit... I'm an idiot
Nah it's fine
I use nano.
Nano >> vi/vim, emacs
4 letters < 2 letters.
vi forever.
Simplicity > Complexity
Not if you need any work done.
That's when you switch to a IDE.
Neovim and emacs are IDEs.
Yes, if you can remember the shortcuts...
M-x IDE
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Ok but why use nano when micro literally exists
Alias?
Aliases are just bloat! You can do just fine without them. Heck, why not remove the ASCII conversion and read everything in hex or binary?
It's all about SPEED and efficiency here!
I'm in DevOps so I'm in a lot of effemerial systems so in practice, I will run into systems where profile hasn't been set up. Tho I do like the idea of making sure all systems properly have that aliased cause it'd be serial killer vibes to spend hours of time to make sure that I can save a keystroke.
Tho it'd never make it through PR. Also, wild require explaining to my coworkers that I do this
Most all distros alias vi to vim already, so it makes no difference.
You use vi because you are lazy.
I used vi because I am too stupid to close it.
We are not the same.
I'll have to check tomarrow if RHEL and UBI do this.
Did some quick googling and looks like cent has that alias by default but doesn't do it when root. Which would explain why I do get inconsistent results with vi. I never thought about it in detail besides just knowing that there are some visual changes. Thanks for the info, I'll be noticing this now that I know!
Codium you dorks
Emacs sucks. Vim is so much better. And vscode is okay.
Go ahead. Down vote me. I don't care. This isn't Reddit lol.
Vim is a pain to configure
Vim has vim9 script now which is very similar to common scripting languages like Typescript.
Vim also doesn't need tons of configuration.
I'm going to give what I've realized newer folks to Vim think is a scorching hot take: VimL is nice. Theyre the same editor commands you use in your day to day life, even if you're using NeoVim + Lua, just all written out in a file.
That said, using NeoVim + Lua makes it far easier to organize your config, which also makes it easier to write more complex configs. It's like the difference between building a shed around back for your home office vs building a cathedral. Its fine to work in a shed, but once you know you can build a cathedral, you're kinda tempted to just up and do it
At first maybe. But when you get your vim config well honed over time you're good. Plus there's things like pathogen or other frameworks to add plugins and stuff.
Vim sucks, Emacs is the best editor in the world
Nuh uh!!!! Vim is better! So much better!!!! Emacs sucks balls!
I use vscode with vim key bindings. It's amazing!
You haven't switched to cursor yet?
I use both emacs and vim, each have their own use cases
This isn't Reddit lol.
Genuinely curious what you think the difference is
stock emacs sucks, doom emacs ftw
You guys recommend VSCodium over VSCode. Is there a working sync solution similar to the one built into VSCode where you can sync all settings and extensions between machines?
Yes! It's this one https://open-vsx.org/extension/zokugun/sync-settings I really like it for using a normal repository over a "gist" and so you can also use any git server provider, I think the developer is also a contributor of VSCodium itself
I generally code in VSCode, and manage org-roam notes and information in Emacs. Works well enough for me.
What's a plugin? What's VSCode?
DBase IV does not need any of this.
sigma vim user