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Of course no one wants to pay them... But they filter out the toxicity, and pay with their sanity, to make these spaces even enjoyable and usable for us normal people.

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The risk is that you'll end up with people who seek out mod roles for the money, spin up legions of alts (more than they do now) and do all kinds of bullshit to game the system. If there's a flat payout, a top mod could inflate the team and double(+) dip to make sure they get the pie slice they want. If it's activity-based, run a handful of bots to break the rules at a time of your choosing and get whack-a-mole points.

If only certain communities qualified for paid moderation (based on activity levels, for example), this could add an incentive to sabotage other related communities and drive traffic to the one a bad actor controls. If all communities qualify, maybe we get massive fragmentation as everybody decides to try and carve out a niche for their mini-job.

That's just a start, lots of other ways it could go sideways or be manipulated. I think we're better off with people who want to keep the spam to a dull roar and prevent heated discussions from getting too out of hand because they want to provide people with usable communities instead of dangling a couple dollars in front of them.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We see the same posts, and I can block people myself.

[–] greenbelt@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But sometimes the posts you remove yourself are quite horrible and disgusting, no?

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I never saw any gorish thing so far, only stupid people. Do you have an example?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This place has been spammed to death with child porn on a few occasions

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but how often do OPs delete their own content? Not usually. They keep them up for those upvotes (or downvotes) and even double posts.

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It you see posts multiple times maybe switch to scaled or new for a change. You can go back to top or active later when scaled is not interesting anymore.
And i dont think its good if everyone would delete their posts, because what if i need to find a meme/conversation that would be gone if everyone deletes their stuff
But doubling posts can be annoying but its a price i am willing to pay

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

The problem with anything and everything is the human element. Adding money to that problem is like adding accelerant to a fire.

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 week ago

I'm going to have to say no, as much as it'd be nice to.

As someone has said, it'd just be ruined because someone would game it for themselves. It is already bad enough as to what happens when moderators and even admins go rogue on the communities they're to uphold when they're not paid. Imagine what it'd be like if they were paid, they'd just justify it.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Just pay for the hosting costs instead.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just make lemmy gold and have that essentially be a donation to the commenter, poster, community mods, and instance.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Besides the Lemmy Gold idea, I would also like it if users could pay to send me various other emoji. Maybe have a private Lemmy Gold board so that it's worth the money?

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, the problem with that is how to handle the federation.

I could just make an instance and have it tell all the other instances that I donated 18,360 awards to a single comment, and they couldn't tell if that was legitimate or not.

Everyone gonna hate this but their is an excellent solution. All lemmy actors have a public Monero receive address associated (ideally through did allowing portability across instances). A lemmy gold activity carries a proof of transaction and each instance checks against the Monero blockchain to validate transaction authenticity.

Now to preemptively defend Monero. No it not destroying the environment its more environmentally friendly than tradition banking. No the fees are not extremes its cheaper than all payment processors. No its not slow bitcoin is slow. No its not a shitcoin scam its the only crypto currency who's value is backed by real world goods and services (thanks onion marketplaces). Yes it actually private and anonymous unlike all other crypto. No it won't get worse with more users it has dynamic block sizes. No it doesn't support nfts all tokens are truly fungible due to real anonymity.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should but i dont want to. I'd rather donate to the instance and they can make that choice. But unfortunately most of the money goes to running costs.

[–] greenbelt@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

And the running costs are paid to some big hosting provider cooperation.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

We have the voting system to weigh in on what should be more visible and less visible. I want to believe it can work. If I give up on the idea that a crowd can collectively self regulate content without giving all power to a small group, then there's no point for me to be on lemmy. I can stand sometimes seeing things I don't want to see if the system generally works.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

In my experience a lot of toxicity comes from those mods.