Stop calling it an assassination. It was just another school shooting. : Charlie_Kirk

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The fascist media is pushing the martyr narrative HARD.

I have to use all my strength not to scream at brainwashed family members at how horrid this person was. Mentioning the school shooting that happened on the same day or the MURDER of 2 Minnesotam democrats (and their spouses) usually shuts them up though. I just hate seeing everyone i know getting sucked into this shit. They weren't a good person, they were not improving the world, they were dividing us. I will feel zero empathy for them. As they would have wanted

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did a surgeon call it a "miracle" the bullet stopped in Kirk's body, somehow making him Bullet Jesus?

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, Charlie had superman-like bullet stopping strength. Sadly for him, the bullet stopping layer was just behind his carotid artery.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Turns out the bullet stopping power was the friends we made along the way

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The dumbest part of that take is there was fucking nobody behind him. Who would it have hit if it did go through?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's a Holy Miracle! Bullet Jeebus was right there and took one for the USA! The Pope will canonize the bullet soon.

Of course, the miracle could just as easily be attributed to the skill of the shooter.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (70 children)

Don't call it a school shooting. School shootings are sad.

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[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yet another example of how hollow and hypocritical all that right wing "somebody think of the children!" rhetoric really is. If he was a child, this likely wouldn't have even made national news

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Evidence: the school shooting that happened on the same day

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Which I didn't hear about!

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

It’s insane…. Dude was a podcaster. Yea it was sad like it is when anyone dies. Dude didn’t hold any offices or anything. We could talk about what he could have become all day, but all he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message. The amount of attention he is getting is ridiculous… as if he was a past president.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He also paid for buses of people to go to the January insurrection too. Don't sell his accomplishments short.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

and called for Biden's execution

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but to a lot of people "those are just words". So I always bring up a key action of his too.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

And he did not go there himself? What a shocker. Just another manipulator playing the Sheep.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Because it has nothing to do with him and everything to do with any excuse to accelerate fascism.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

Shitposting podcaster, hate monger, using falsities to acheive social ills.

Plenty of people podcast without doing any of that, to say he was a podcaster kind of ignores the fact that he was a Nazi youth organizer.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message

And his message was awful, and he was exploiting college kids to create controversial content for his social media business.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

they want to martyr him, that's why.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I hate hearing this. He was not just 'a podcaster' or just 'a guy who gave his opinons' he was one of the biggest political organizers of one of the most disgusting american political movements. His entire life was dedicated to radicalizing youths to vote for trump.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

School shootings are just something you're going to have to live with in a country with a gun culture. I think I heard that somewhere.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

That's what MAGA tells me. Thoughts and prayers are the answer.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not defend Kirk, but you didnt hear it anywhere. But you would have read it plenty.

The actual quote is this: “You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It’s drivel. But ... I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

He gave more context to his point of view here: “Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price -- 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That’s a price. You get rid of driving, you’d have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving -- speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. … We should have an honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.”

I personally dont like the analogy here, as it doesnt take into account that driving a car has lots of safe guards in place. You have to register your car in every state. You have to take lessons and pass a test in order to be able to drive. In some places in the US, you can just walk into a gun show, and walk out armed to the teeth with zero checks.

In any argument, details matter.

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Cars also have very obvious uses besides harming people.

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[–] koper@feddit.nl 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What if his neck just does that sometimes

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

If it's a legitimate shooting, the body has ways of rejecting the bullet. He clearly wanted this. That's why he was acting so provocatively.

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

He was a paid actor!

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

not convinced he wasnt a forced martyr. there was another angle behind him where a flash was seen, and then a projectile was recorded mid flight behind him. also a 30-06 would have blown his neck clean apart. he would be looking like he was nearly headless nick if he was lucky. but suddenly "its a miracle there was no exit wound" from 30-06......at about 150 to 200 yards? even if the recorded muzzle flash behind him, and the projectile caught mid flight behind him was doctored. theres no way a 30-06 would just "stop" in his neck with a small hole like that. physics would simply not allow it.

what they describe happening, and what we saw. would make sense for a 22lr or maaaaaaybe a 9mm. but thats also pushing it.

nah man. either they are lying abour the caliber and gun, the shooter, or the whole fucking thing.

also, trumps "attempted assassination" was staged as fuck. someone had to die to make it look real. the cavitation that would happened to his ear would have shattered all the cartilage in it, his ear would have been absolutely mangled. but it was magically healed withour a scar a few weeks later.

this whole admin is based on lies, never trust the story they present.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I would argue that a 150 grain 30-06 could do something like this. That's a pretty popular deer hunting round, and I don't know that it would go through a vertebrae. Certainly wouldn't almost decapitate him. 220 grain would probably exit I think, but again it wouldn't almost decapitate him. There really isn't enough in the neck to go flying everywhere.

That's just me guessing from decades of hunting deer, elk, and bear with a 30-06. I don't do neck shots though.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

It was a school shooting in that it was a shooting that occurred at a place of education AND it was an assassination in that it meets the definition of assassination

The murder of a person (esp. a prominent public figure) in a planned attack, typically with a political or ideological motive, sometimes carried out by a hired or professional killer; a murderous attack of this kind.

Edit: For those downvoting me, please explain (in non emotive language) why you disagree.

[–] damo_omad@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Tis a joke

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[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Classic republicans. Only pissed off and do something when it affects them or is a threat to them.

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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Stop calling it an assassination. It was just another school shooting.

How are you defining "assassination" and "school shooting"?

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics. — Leonard Lyons' Stalin

If you shoot one person you are a murderer. If you kill a couple persons you are a gangster. If you are a crazy statesman and send millions to their deaths you are a hero. — Watertown Daily Times

If schools shootings happen because of gun culture, it a necessary evil that only the radical left would want to oppose. If a political pundit who defended that argument is shot due to the same gun culture, it was the radical left that must have been involved in some way or just took advantage of the shooting by using it to continue to criticize gun culture. — MAGA, probably.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

Your SO RUDE and need to be CANCELED FOR THIS!

-Anti Cancel Culture People who Defended the Sandy Hook Shooter because 2A!

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