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Discovery is fine overall.

It may not be everyone’s favourite Trek but NO SINGLE SHOW IS EVERYONE’S FAVOURITE.

I’m stooping to yelling because, looking at it as someone who saw TOS in first run, it really can’t be stressed enough that there needs to be new Trek for every generation.

I didn’t expect that our GenZ kids would like Voyager best of the older shows.

And yes, for one of our GenZs, Discovery season one is ‘the best season of Trek’ ever. They have rewatched all the seasons of the show more than I have.

Discovery season 5 was fine in my view. I wasn’t fond of the series epilogue tacked on to the finale.

Season 4 of Discovery has a better premise and structure than Picard season 2 but both seem to suffer terribly from being shot under COVID restrictions. Other shows managed to write around the limitations without such stilted and drawn own scenes. I don’t know what Paramount instructed its writers teams be it’s boggling to see these seasons against the rest now.

It's also important to separate what you're seeing online from the leftovers of a manufactured "opposition campaign" orchestrated by a handful of reactionary influencers.

Personally speaking I did not like the early two seasons, but I thought three is ok, and seasons four and five I consider to be some of Trek's best!

I liked it though it did feel that the series had a tendancy to take itself maybe too seriously. Trek is best when it knows when to keep things on the lighter side and/or create ongoing gags and themes to call back to during the series. Discovery didn't really feel like it had much of that.

Despite that it was still a good watch IMO. Burnham tended to be at the center of the series though the other characters do get interesting when they got more time. You should just give it a watch and decide for yourself.

Also if you want to know the backstory of Star Trek Strange New Worlds you'll want to watch at least some Discovery, SNW is a spin-off.

And giving credit where it's due, Discovery was the first of what became a whole bunch of new Trek shows that came out afterwards. If Discovery was that bad then none of the other newer Trek shows would have even made it to air. Before Discovery it had been a while since any new Trek shows had appeared, at some point the Star Trek universe needs new blood to keep things going. Else it's just going to be older people talking about the original Star Trek series and TNG and it'll just be something that used to exist a long time ago.

It’s constant flawed buildup to a promise of something just around the corner the might actually be good, that not only never ever delivers on that promise, but pulls the rug out from under you more if ten than not, rather than just providing the payoff that you probably want (I lately keep thinking back to the Klingon War)

Discovery was so bad I had to stop after season 2 and have written off everything that they've set in the 31st century

It's not awful. In fact it has a lot of great high points. On balance, I would say that if you compared it objectively to the first 65 episodes of TNG, it would compare rather favorably.

The worst Trek is still better to watch than a heck of a lot of other TV

i loved picard and discovery the only bad thing about picard is that it made me remember watching tng every saturday at my dads house and he would of loved it.

It's fine. It's probably the weakest of the modern Trek shows, but only because SNW and LDS are so good.

i would watch all of the above. with discovery at the very least the first four seasons, because S2 is a backdoor season 0 of strange new worlds and S4 rocks but needs the context of the first 3. it can be very uneven but i don't think it gets bad as often as Picard did and doesn't stay bad for as long as Picard does. Enterprise is similar, a rough-at-times ride that does really pay off in S3

you're only gonna watch one, though, i'd do strange new worlds. it's essentially a return to the TOS/TNG format and has a stellar cast. and frankly you don't need to watch disco S2 to fully know what's going on, they explain everything- i only watched disco after snw S1 left me hungry for more. SNW is seemingly unique among trek shows in that every season has been less well recieved than the last, partly because the short seasons are increasingly dedicated to gag episodes, but i'd say with the exception of one particular stinker in S3, a weaker SNW episode is still gonna be better than most shows at their best

but also- you're your own person and may walk away from all of these series feeling someghing different! no harm on trying and if you hate something hey, it only cost you 40 minutes of your life

Discovery is my least preferred star trek I've watched so far, I mean, it's not "bad" per se, it's just different from the rest of star trek and has a different formula.

The thing with discovery is that everything happens really fast, there's always a sense of urgency and hurry, but actual plot development happens really slowly.

Conflict takes a whole season to resolve, instead of standard one episode which you expect from a star trek show.

Also, I hate how the actors mumble instead of talking.

It's not bad, it's just not my favourite format.

No. Far from it. The First half of the first season sucks, second half gets better, Second Season is really watchable, third season is where it grows it's beard.

It's not very good, but it does have some really good moments, and some really good ideas mixed in with the less-good stuff. It's worth watching. Just put your fingers in your ears and la-la-la through all the Klingon retconning and inappropriate pathos. There are moments where the emotional storyline are good, but they cry wolf too often.