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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

While I think the shirt is funny and should be worn proudly, I can see how someone might be offended for non-racist reasons. Some people might simply find the depiction of death to be offensive.

That said, it's entirely possible the offended person was a raging racist.

Edit:

This edit is for those of you who are saying that people shouldn't be offended by violence since it's on TV. I think you're missing the fact that the point entirely.

The fact that a depiction of violence is making a valid point doesn't make it less offensive. In fact, that would detract from the message. Sometimes it is important to make a statement using depictions of violence to get a point across because the violence is offensive.

That said, I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to find this shirt objectionable for non-racist reasons. For example, many people prefer not to expose their kids to depictions of violence. I think it's this person's right to wear the shirt to make their point but the consequence of wearing it is that some people may say that they find it offensive for both non-racist and racist reasons.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 week ago

I think that walking on eggshells to avoid people's delicate sensibilities took us down a dark path that is hard to walk back.

Certainly, we should be sensitive to some things. And though I'm making up the following out of thin air... If I were told I offended a Furry for using the phrase "dirty rat," I would not be surprised.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm gonna go ahead assume they were a racist and admit it's entirely possible they're offended by the depiction of death/crime/vigilantism generally

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

Anyone who doesn't feel some level of Schadenfreude at that image, is with the MAGAs, at least subconsciously.

Even if the depiction of death bothers you, the proper response is "I don't like it, but I get it."

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some people might simply find the depiction of death to be offensive.

Gee I wonder what those people do with their day since they can't watch TV.

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[–] Gearheart@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (49 children)

To everyone here that feels Nazis deserve free speech and sympathy.

They do not.

Handling Nazi with kid gloves is how we got here.

Handling Nazis with im kid gloves is how the Holocaust happened.

History is literally repeating itself and anyone sympathetic with Nazis is complicit.

Edit: Most of us know someone who's grandparents died fighting Nazis. Ignoring and empathizing with Nazi's is spitting on their graves.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't know bout y'all but the ONLY gloves you should use when handling Nazis is the kind with spikes protruding from the business end.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OK but first make sure they're an actual Nazi and not one of that "someone who disagrees with me" kind of almost certainly not a Nazi.

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[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 31 points 1 week ago (19 children)

This brakes my brain for some reason. If a KKK member was lynched, I wouldn't feel a thing, but if someone was walking around in an office I or school with this shirt, I would feel weird about it. I can't put my finger on why.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

We all agree that punching fascists in the face is objectively good, but if someone was walking through a school or church yelling that we should punch fascists then you would probably feel uncomfortable.

It's an aggressive t-shirt, even though it portrays a morally appropriate sentiment. I agree with the message, and personally don't think it's inappropriate, but I would not be confused why some people might not want to see it, and probably wouldn't wear it to my kid's preschool.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago

I think to healthy, liberal (in the original sense) sensibilities, the concept of lynching or imagery of violent death is still principally unpalatable. Fundamentally, violence should be considered undesirable.

Pragmatically, we may consider it acceptable or even necessary in some cases. In those cases, conscious judgement will overrule that fundamental conviction.

But that doesn't mean the gut reaction can't be one of distaste. Both sentiments can exist at once, and the weight each of them carries in your mind doesn't have to be absolute.

For me personally, every death – no matter how justified – evokes at least a faint sense of regret: "Shame they couldn't become a better person." It may be very faint in some cases, but I aim to preserve that ideal in myself: never to treat life without respect, never to treat deaths without compassion.

[–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because hopefully children aren’t being exposed to that hate filled reality otherwise? A blissful ignorance, if you will. I feel like I understand what you’re saying, but this the best I could come up with for the “why. “

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

People have a sense of tiny comfort. One of which is not to have to think about death even for the deserving. They will, at the same as being offended by this, will support the death penalty, feel justified in invading random nations, and help defund social services. But that's never felt as confronting death. That's all in making sure their small comforts stay stable.

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