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Spotify Is Social Media Now? (newsroom.spotify.com)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by sunstoned@lemmus.org to c/music@lemmy.world
 

I've done it. I've finally reached my "old man yells at cloud" moment. Why, why, WHY is Spotify adding features straight out of the social media playbook?

Anybody have recommendations for alternatives?

In my head there's:

~~YouTube music~~ (google, gross)

~~Apple music~~ (no way they're not on a similar trajectory)

~~Bandcamp~~ (limited, but at least bands see some money from it)

~~SoundCloud~~ (weird reputation, though haven't come back around to it in a good 10 years)

Tidal maybe? Would love to hear some recommendations.

Edit: I neglected to mention why I don't like the messaging feature. I've never used it, yet with a few of my friends there are already dozens of song exchanges in the thread. It's clear that spotify has been using user-specific links for a while now to track who sends what to who. That's a pretty clear anti-feature for me, and is enough to make me jump ship.

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[–] mcforest@feddit.org 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Buying and ripping CDs is my way to go. Completely without social media features.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The social aspect is talking to the cashier.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

What even...

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (9 children)

That’s so much effort and clutter when you can just download MP3s or FLACs from the web.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Bandcamp because you discover music since albums are so cheap.

Qobuz is good IMHO. I've heard good things about Tidal too.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

big fan of qobuz, the only reason i ever dabbled in spotify was to make sharing links easy

I left Spotify for TIDAL a couple months ago. No complaints here!

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I still just buy and maintain my own local music library.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Same, but I still want some form of a recommendation engine. I also want to discover new music.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Bandcamp + Yar har fiddle dee dee + Jellyfin or Plex.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For music something like Navidrome is much better, IMO. But you could easily host it in addition to the former two, not instead.

Oh, and you can combine the subscription to Tidal with yar har by umm... permanently caching the songs offline by means of 3rd party tools. It might seem pointless at first glance, but having the music stored on your server ensures you'll keep having it, while you still can spontaneously explore new stuff on Tidal.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'd steer away from Plex. Their devs have clearly been headed in the wrong direction. Enshittification inbound.

Obligatory I miss what.cd 🥲

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[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tidal is great as far as streaming services go in general.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hear people saying Tidal is unethical because of where its finding is coming from, and the ties its investors have.

Qobuz seems to be the shit as the next alternative.

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Spotify has been on the way to ruin for a while already. The UI is partly Tiktokified/Instagramified.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I recently cancelled spotify and switched to a selfhosted navidrome server to stream my personal music collection.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm using Qobuz for music streaming. It's alright.

Last time I checked they pay artists more than the competition, they curate playlists and editorial content rather than pushing AI left and right, and my experience is generally good.

Minus points for lacking API and native Linux client. On desktop Linux the web app works well.

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Deezer is my streamer of choice, nearly identical with artists, OK discovery. Premium includes high def and you can currently stream to multiple devices, like, say, play on sonos for the Kids and listen to yourself without one device stopping

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Its funny how people are still using Spotify when other services exist. But yea people, complain about Spotify and it's features.

Edit: if you don't like something quit it, don't complain. Companies don't understand until numbers start dropping.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I went to Spotify from Tidal because Tidal just didn't have the music I wanted to listen to.

I can't see myself wording until there's is a service that just has all music that I'm able to find through Spotify. Sad but true.

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[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like streaming music, I dont need to own it, but I have been struggling to find a good music streaming service.

I used Spotify for years but the amount of garbage they keep adding made me cancel my subscription. The last straw was when "smart shuffle" kept automatically turning itself back on.

First I switched to YouTube Music but the user experience is honestly trash and I moved on pretty quickly. The separation between video and music service was ridiculously inconsistent.

I used Tidal for a few months and I appreciated the simple UI. However, the recommendations are insanely bad. Not once have I found a new, good track on the daily mix to add to my library, it was driving me crazy.

I started using Qobuz only a few weeks ago. The track radio is honestly pretty bad so far. I start the radio on a lofi track and start hearing video game ambience noises 5 tracks later. Literally bird sounds with whitenoise from an OST album. I havent tried the daily/weekly queue a lot yet, but I hope its decent because I dont know what to try next.

I wish Spotify hadn't entshittified, it had the best recommendations/radios by far but its just not usable for me anymore.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Winamp died because the company that acquired it tried to turn it into an everything app.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Winamp died for our sins :(

[–] WilhelmStroker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Misread that as winamp died for our skins.

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Winamp died because pirating music mostly died. That's the only reason.

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[–] marighost@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

I'm content with tidal for now. I mainly listen to music on my desktop, and I like that it's just music. No podcasts or things I don't want to see.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because we live in late stage capitalism. Our systems require infinite growth, so when Spotify tries to grow in an over saturated market. How else can they increase profits? Throw shit from all over the place to see what works. This issue is why every company jumped on the Ai bandwagon because it was the first real leap in a Market since the internet. Problem is 51% of all money spent in America was spent by the top 10% of the population. That top 10% only needs one Spotify subscription per person. The bottom 90% aren't going to waste money anymore on subscription services.

[–] Freaky@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Try Metrolist for android. I don't know what is available for pc in this manner. And if you're one of the "If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing" people, then there's option to save the mp3 files from both Spotify's and Deezer's database. Any telegram bot titling this kinda thing will do the job.

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[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

spotify started with more social media feel

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just don't use the feature. Not everything is screech worthy.

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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, Apple Music is not that bad. Tried to love tidal but the app just really sucks with frequent crashes and terrible ui.

Thus far Apple Music feels like old apple playing the streaming game and I have yet to find enshitified features being added. Even the recommendations are more in line with my expectations, think of artists with new or upcoming releases that the app knows you’ve been listening too.

Ui wise I still miss Spotify, it WAS just better. But it’s going further from that everyday. Apple Music also has flac quality if that interests you and you don’t have to pay extra for it. In terms of paying artists, tidal still takes the crown and apple is second.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Apple Music also has flac quality if that interests you and you don’t have to pay extra for it

Spotify has this now as well and you don't pay extra for it

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

But Spotify adds ai features I don’t ask for

Never left Pandora. Still works exactly like i set it up. Damn, 15years ago?

Spotify customers created a bigger evil

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