I said it before... it is incredible how fast America's dominance is falling. I remember shortly after 9/11 when the idea of US market dominance failing seemed ridicules... even dystopian shit still had the US dollar be number one... but this? Fuck me...
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now imagine for a moment - go back to that post-9/11 period - and imagine that our standing in the world and our economic dominance are both failing not because of some new innovation from our competitors, or climactic disturbance in politics or crops, no, it's all falling to shit because, and only because we elected a conman to lead the country, twice, and it's gone terribly both times.
oh and gwb iraq didn't really set things up for greatness, but damn, ten years of trump has run this country right into the ditch.
impressively rapid descent into shitocracy.
Idk feels more like the Dems and Biden failed the US. Obama, for all his faults, managed to turn things around despite the poor gwb years.
your feelings were easily manipulated.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/feb/06/whats-the-economic-state-of-the-union-under-joe-bi/
Or they didnt care about money? People can have different priorities and values, and I can think Biden was bad and you think he was good and that both be valid.
valid, but the context of this discussion was economics. cybersteel thinks "Idk feels more like the Dems and Biden failed the US" - in many contexts this can be valid, but in the specific context of the article posted, the economic impact of silly tariffs and self owns - the biden admin did fine by the economy over all, and the numbers are there on poltifact.
you're certainly entitled to whatever opinions but if you tell me "Idk feels more like the Dems and Biden failed the US. Obama, for all his faults, managed to turn things around despite the poor gwb years." in a discussion about economics, while I don't laud the guy, the admin managed to turn the economy around 180 from trump - that's based on data easily discernable (and with cited notations) on the poltifact article.
It's a good thing.
America will be better off after being taken down a few pegs. They'll start trying again.
...and its soy market to South America.
And that...
So in the past couple of weeks, MAGA has been Make Argentina Great Again and now Make Australia Great Again.
I wonder what Trump is gonna fuck up next week so that Azerbaijan can swoop in to start selling to China.
He already rescued Azerbaijan from two brutal wars that nobody ever heard of. Hasn't he done enough?
Australian here.
I just thought you'd be interested to know that the nutty is kind of leaking.
Thankfully they are very few, but we do have some MAGA Trump supporters here, and yes they occasionally say "make australia great again". Its so shameless.
I live in a place called albany, and yes on precisely one occasion I've seen someone say make albany great again.
We're having a local council election. About a third of the candidates are dickheads with no chance of getting up, and yes they include things like anti-woke and anti-DEI in their bios.
An American friend played a season of football for Albany. And another played for Mt Barker.
Someone should run with their platform as, 'Make Dog Rock Great Again!!'
They'd be named emperor of the Great Southern within weeks!
Maybe this will mean red meat will finally get cheaper.
Oh wait, no it won't, we will just lose all that meat and money. Taxpayers will have to foot the bill for Republicans like always.
And that's in top of the massive bail-out they just gave Argentina.
Ah but immigrants....
The leopards will be feasting on farmer face (again)
I don't care.This is actually better for the environment.With a smaller ecological footprint.
This is america where we pay our farmers to grow stuff that they can't sell. And we think we like it this way
This is america where we pay our farmers to grow stuff that they can't sell. And we think we like it this way
We pay them to do that so we have a surplus so we all don't starve... every country does this so if there is a bad year, you don't have farmers stopping production because they can't survive and have to sell everything.
No clue why they vote red though, considering they get a ton of subsidizes.
No clue why they vote red though
Because liberals want to excommunicate them for saying trans women aren't women.
I have family farmers in Iowa. This is a bull shit take. They make so much corn because usa says so, but the corn the grow can't be eaten by humans. It's cattle feed.
It just sits. And you gor wit for 30$/acre or you try to free market and go broke.
It's an extremely inefficient system and non of that food goes to USA citizens. Which is why you have no citations for that comment.
That corn is grown so they have money for when it's needed.
That corn also goes to feed beef cattle which we eat.
https://usafacts.org/articles/federal-farm-subsidies-what-data-says/
They've been doing this since the great depression in the usa because no one wants another great depression. Other countries do it as well to keep the food supply stable and affordable.
I don't know why you're arguing this.
No one says it's efficient. You don't do efficiency on your food for your citizens. You make sure they can eat.
Oh the ag. collapse could be, at the very least, interesting.
Bad enough that the lions share of the industry will need major handouts, or more likely that farm after farm will be bought out for land-lease to former owners, and then given handouts to offset purchase price. But, the midwest corporate cash crop farms have been fighting tooth and nail against soil conservation methods just to squeeze a few extra bucks out.
I so hope we don't end up getting into another dust bowl.
I'd highly recommend folks look at keeping up a community garden or two if possible, or helping out at one if not.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
Idiots.
"U.S. farmers have lost out on shipments worth billions of dollars"
Wait until this sinks in to the farmer's heads. Next year farmers will fully experience the rotten fruits of the current administration.
the only thing farmers know is the price that the 5 giant beef companies are paying them for their cows
Thanks to Republican education cuts and propaganda, they're dumb as shit and won't put two and two together
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Have noticed Australia is also replacing the US here in Canada as well.
It makes sense, Australia is much closer. Congratulations to Trump on being so eco-conscious.
in global shipping, closeness actually doesn’t make things necessarily more eco friendly: when you have 100 ships full of cargo heading from china to the US, they’ve got to return too… either they return full of something, or nothing
i’m not sure how it all works out in this case, but slowly moving things from the US to asia is practically free, in pretty much all regards
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