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Qualcomm’s 5GHz Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme Obliterates Apple M4, Intel & AMD in Early Benchmarks! (ts2.tech)

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[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

These are almost certainly "functionally real but fake" benchmark results.

Note how they claimed that early X Elite showed ~3,100+ in GB6 ST and no devices ever hit that. Their own marketing doesn't even refer to ~3,100 when comparing X2 Elite verse X Elite (they use ~2,900 which is also not really true outside of some edge cases).

I am no fanboy of AMD, Intel Qualcomm or any company. I want top end CPU SKUs for ~$200 (due to intense competition that brings down margins to a low single digits); that's what I am a fanboy of.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that they did some benchmark result releases for the original chips that put them ahead of everything but could not be verified when users actually got their hands on the chips.

I think any 'stats' they try to release relating to performance need to be considered as puff pieces that are more akin to marketing propaganda than any indication as to real world results.

I have one of their Snapdragon X based laptops that retailed for over $2000 on release and i've seen how it actually performs in the real world. The emulation layer for windows apps is not great, and there's incredibly limited support by anything that goes beyond base windows apps, microsoft office, and web browsers. Battery life is atrocious.

Tools that I use every single day like Parsec are basically unusable on ARM beyond the most basic needs- I can remote into something and do a very simple task like running a command or opening an app, the framerate is just too low for it to be worth using for even basic web browsing because of the emulation layer and unsupported graphics implementation. Something like moonlight works, but that requires substantially more tinkering, which is the name of the game with Snapdragon based laptops.

The overall adoption rate is so low that developers don't even target ARM64 for workstation use cases really.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago

Given that this is a gaming sub, I should mention that you can't game on these things beyond the most basic things that could run on the cheapest non-gaming laptops from 5+ years ago.

Steam launches, but doesn't support it natively. Since it's emulated it tanks battery life. The graphics are so slow that anything other than extremely old games that are emulated in dosbox or similar perform worse than what i'd expect out of a 10 year old business laptop. There are exacly 0 ARM64 on windows game builds distributed by steam.

If you want something "different" to game on the answer is to switch to linux imo. At least there's substantial development and resources going towards wine/proton and steam/heroicgameslauncher. I moved my current gaming rig with a 9800x3d and 9070xt over to a popular linux distro and it works well, but does require tinkering for things like FSR4. In games without FSR4, it basically just works. The performance can be better or worse than windows, but so far even with bleeding edge games i'm really happy. There's even native linux builds for lots of games, and substantial overall developer support.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

But it runs Android. I'm on my last ever Android. Android killed it self, it just doesn't want to admit that everyone hates the direction Google is giving it.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Wouldn’t be the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth, or twentieth time they lied about benchmark results

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Wow, unreleased product is faster than released products. Not really that surprising.