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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have a tool that I wrote, probably 5+ years ago. Runs once a week, collects data from a public API, translates it into files usable by the asterisk phone server.

I totally forgot about it. Checked. Yep, up to date files created, all seem in the right format.

Sometimes things just keep working.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, had to debug a script that zipped a zip recursively, with the new data appended. The server had barely enough storage left, as the zip took almost 200GB (the data is only 3GB). I looked at the logs, last successful run: 2019

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, had the same happen. Something that should be simple failing for stupid reasons.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well it's not that simple... Because whoever wrote that made it way too complicated (and the production version has been tweaked without updating the dev too)

A clean rewrite with some guard clauses helped remove the haduken ifs and actually zipping the file outside of the zipped directory helped a lot

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I have to say I've hastened my own demise (in program terms) by over-engineering something that should be simple. Sometimes adding protective guardrails actually causes errors when something changes.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Which are what guardrails are for. When something change, you don't know the impact the change will have.

By having guardrails, you make sure to limit/eliminate potential critical issues.

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, all these simple data processing scripts will always work as long as both sides stay the same/compatible

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 19 points 1 week ago

Yep. It seems they haven't changed a thing about the format. Probably a script much older than mine on their end is generating it too.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't that true for all of data processing?

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Maybe. But webdevs have made it a mission not to seem like so

the final part of that is "written by person that left the company ten years ago"

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago

I don't see the alias in your .bashrc

yeah, um, about that. I have no idea where it comes from. We can type alias and see what it is, so if it's ever lost, we can recreate it, but I looked for 30 minutes yesterday even did a grep -R and I have NO IDEA where it comes from, or why it's named electricboogaloo

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cenzorrll@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ha, loser.

*glances over at 6 bash scripts and 2 cron jobs*

Not you, you're perfect

[–] dotslashme 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My current project has a crontab with 216 entries.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well, here's a sentence I haven't been tempted to use before:

"I believe that may be too many crontab entries."

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Any problem in server administration can be solved with an additional crontab entry. Except for the problem of too many crontab entries.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 points 4 days ago

Which can be solved by an additional server.

Boom, problem solved.

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And that's why I added a crontab entry that periodically purges my cron configuration. That way, I'm forced to readd only the truly necessary cron jobs, successfully reducing the amount of crontab entries.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

just randomly delete 50 of them.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. The strongest crontab entries will probably restore themselves. (For anyone reading along, this is sarcasm. Don't do this.)

a crontab can regenerate from bisection to form two whole crontabs

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

pshaw, just drop in there and combine a few

/etc/cron.d/first25 /etc/cron.d/second25 ...

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[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

Use SystemD timers, you animal

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At some point it may be good to migrate to airflow or something similar.

It's not the number of entries that makes it bad. It's the fact that if you run crontab, they are gone...

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why there's a crontab rule to load the crontab from a file. Cronception if you will.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make the rule start a secondary cron system. Otherwise it won't run after you erase the crontab.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here you go:

with-lock-ex -q /path/to/lockfile sh -c '
while true; do
    crontab cronfile;
    sleep 60;
done;'
[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

At first I thought you missed the -r. Then I checked. Defaulting to STDIN here is very, very dumb, IMHO. Almost as bad as putting the “edit” flag right next to the “delete everything without confirmation” flag on a Western keyboard (-e vs -r).

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Crontab is a really badly designed program that we just can't fix because everybody depends on its WFTs for something.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Suck my dick O’Leary

Nah bro, that bash alias is FULLY documented in .bashrc! Idiot.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

A self-written shell script "daemon" that tails & greps log output for "ERR|FAIL"

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I know there's a meme here, but as a Canadian, I'm sorry about that traitorous asshat.

[–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Since I'm somewhat of a simpleton... isn't that how pipelines actually work? The only difference being, they're all (scripts) available from a centralized system and triggered i.e. with webhooks?

Instead of a local script on a server, the system opens i.e. a ssh session and runs the script step by step remotely?

So is that the joke or am I missing something?

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll hear NO aspersions against my precious Cron!

Cron is magic. Cron is civilization!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Naw, mate, that's Crom.

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I feel attacked

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