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This is another bit of art from an ongoing solarpunk fiction project: a flying crane cargo airship docked at a mooring mast made from a recycled wind turbine tower.

I was looking for a modernized mooring mast design for a sort of prefab kit that might be used by frontier communities and one of the FullyAutomated devs suggested these reused segments because the turbines already get replaced regularly, and the structures meet many of the same goals with sideload and weather and even support elevators.

Realistically a lot of locations might use platforms on the ground which rotate so the airship can land and still weathervane in the wind instead of mooring masts. I've seen these called Boyant Aircraft Rotating Terminals or Depots. But some communities may not want to clear that much space, or might be supported by airships that don't land. Others may use mooring masts as a place for an airship to temporarily wait for access to a facility.

I've posted about airships a few times before. I think they have some good potential for certain kinds of cargo and especially for locations which are hard to reach overland, though I think that description might fit more locations if the solarpunk future deprioritizes cars and roads, and especially if a period of societal crumbles leaves behind extensive infrastructure debt.

Extrapolating modern designs with all the accompanying safety improvements is kinda hard when all you've got to start with is some lattice towers from the 1920s.

I'm not any kind of engineer, so it's mostly guesswork on my part. I wish the airship industry had had more time to iterate on this stuff. I know the designs and materials and control mechanisms of the airships have improved massively in the last century, but I'm not sure how the masts, especially simple, seldom-used ones like this might be redesigned. (With big airports I picture something like the Skylon Tower or Space Needle which rotate with the airship in the wind.)

If you're an engineer with the right skillset I'd love to hear your thoughts!

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[–] Caveman@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice art! I like the palette you used. Hard to believe airships will make a comeback but it is an interesting idea.

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Thank you! The designs, propulsion, electronics, control mechanisms, and materials available have improved tremendously but starting up a whole new method of aviation in the modern day is difficult so we don't have a many good examples in use yet and that leaves us in a kind of odd speculative space. Modern aviation is rightly and respectably safety-focussed but it's hard enough to get even a new airplane design through (which is how we end up with these weird start-with-something-grandfathered-in-and-kludge-on-modernizations) let alone a whole different kind of commercial craft. But there are a few designs I'm excited about which seem to have a lot of potential, especially in replacing cargo helicopters in their niche.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would stick solar panels on top of the airship.

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

I did that in a previous picture, not sure why I forgot here. I'll probably update it for the book, thanks!

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the things to consider for these would be logistics.

  • What all cases would the air-ships be used for?
  • If they are going to be used for bulk cargo transport, how much would that "bulk" be?
  • If it is going to be a significant amount, then you would be considering that larger ports may have additional infrastructure to aid in faster loading/unloading, from parts of the airship other than the exit that is close to the tip.
    • In such a case, you would want something more than just a needle.
      • Maybe rotating arms that cling closely to the airships and aid in loading/unloading. But then that again makes the elevator a bottleneck, meaning that you are going to be making a fatter trunk.
      • Maybe separate crane installations, close enough to service the docked ships, placed in strategic locations, so as to provide good enough angles of entry/exit to the ships.
        • The cranes cloud have a ropeway, onto which containers of standard sizes could be latched for loading/unloading.
    • On the other hand, perhaps there could be some cargo landing technology, but that could only work one way.
    • In case the airships were docked in lower positions, one could go with a scissor lift
      • this would then only be available for perhaps the ~3 bottommost docked ships
[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So for the use case, probably the best way to describe it is to think of an airship as a cargo helicopter with way more lift and a much longer range, which can fly a bit faster, and is cheaper to operate. They can carry way less than an onceangoing cargo ship but they're faster, they can carry more than a plane but they're slower, and they have the potential to be cheaper on fuel than both (setting aside the potential return of sailing ships). The startups seem to be pitching them mostly as a way to do overland transport of items like wind turbine blades that are too large for trains or highways. But in this setting where societal crumbles and a deprioritization on cars during rebuilding left most roads and bridges in no shape for 18-wheeler trucks, I also picture them filling the role of cargo trucks. This mirrors some research and planning by the Canadian government considering using airships to reach communities who are currently only linked seasonally by ice roads, who are being gradually stranded by climate change.

Airships like the one depicted are often described as Flying Cranes, with their own internal hoist system allowing them to raise and lower shipping containers, modular buildings (like aid stations) or to dangle larger cargoes below them.

In that case, mooring masts would fill a role similar to cargo ships dropping anchor outside a port while waiting for their turn at a dock, just a safe place to wait. In this case the crew could also disembark.

Some airships can land and would likely park on the ground during cargo operations.

The tricky part is that if they're parked for any amount of time they need to be able to weathervane in the wind or be secured in a hangar. They're basically big sails.

So any structure (like the top of the mooring mast) has to rotate freely. For little towers like this one which may not be open to the public, a rotating platform and gangplank are probably sufficient but for passenger liners I could picture a whole rotating terminal at the top of a tower though that might not be much fun in high winds.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

internal hoist system

Some airships can land and would likely park on the ground during cargo operations.

I see.
In case an airship has their own crane that can reach the ground anyway, they can probably also use that to anchor themselves to the ground and pull themselves down, making ground operations faster.

weathervane in the wind ... rotating terminal

Yeah, these don't seem like something that people would look forward to.
And while for the water surface, we can make breakwaters (which is pretty expensive in the first place), doing that for airships doesn't seem particularly doable.
And while there might be some sort of planning that can be done in case of a place full of skyscrapers, to make a port in the centre, having a pathway for the ships to enter and exit, while greatly reducing the winds at the port, that will probably not match the solarpunk theme at all.