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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The point of this is to break Fdroid, as the point of removing device tree publishing from their phones was to remove third party ROMs that would ignore the requirement for verification, as well as the changes to AOSP updates. This is a war on users that want to keep control of their phones and when it's done, you will not be able to escape the enshittification and surveillance. And I'm convinced that was the price they paid to get out of the FTC lawsuit.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 35 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That also means they now will know about every app installs, worldwide. So when the government comes in and ask who have installed this app they decided is bad, they can come get you.

Signal, VPNs, they'll have a list of everyone opting out of government-mandated backdoors.

LineageOS so worth losing Play Integrity.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a guide to get lineage on my galaxy s24? Or something else?

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah download.lineageos.org but I don't think the s24 is supported.

[–] miked@piefed.social 47 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

When it announced developer verification, it said the process would not evaluate the content of an app.

Ok, sure. The ICE Block app Google just pulled from Play Store will not be evaluated.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 13 points 19 hours ago

This is a great example why google control is a bad idea... you can't trust these bootlickers with anything, they are an extension of the ruling oligarchy which controls the corporation directly and the government organs via corruption.

This is a class war, and plebs are way behind.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

you mean Apple? the app was exclusively on iOS. it was a doxxing target from the get-go ran by an amateur that ran his database with unfixed vulnerabilities

[–] Kalon@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago

Paid or free, All I know is that I won't be buying any device i can't install my own apps on.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 75 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why cant we be trusted with installing apps on our phones? Its my device, ill do what I want!

Its so dumb.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just wait until they start pushing this with computers too. We have continually coddled normies by dumbing shit down instead of pushing them to be smarter. No doubt they'll look at this as a good thing too.

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Once ARM on PC takes off it's over.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

x86 is far too ingrained for that to happen. Even if it takes over on the consumer side of things, enterprise will still be stuck on x86 and you know how difficult it is to get them to change. The odds of it dying is exceedingly low.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This is one reason why the changes to the boot process on X86 were a major concern, if machines only boot an an OS with a "trusted" signing keys then it is a pretty straight path to MS-only. Lack of published architecture assist gets here and there are X86 machines that will fail spectacularly on Linux due to this (weird EFI boot stuff, certain chipsets for such drivers can't be had or made, etc). Hardware-level DRM is a major threat.

Then add in stuff like browser-based DRM. Oh cool, you can install whatever you want but this differently stuff will only play on Chrome with the DRM extension enabled, maybe sending CPUID info, and doing a bunch of other stuff for lock-in that makes the IE6+ActiveX/MS-JS pale in comparison

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck those people we will just keep our own stuff and use it. This is one reason I have been hanging on to old hardware. I can still play games 20 years from now on my old PCs.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

I setup a mini PC that runs as a PXE server. Pretty much anything with an Ethernet port can boot from it and play a bunch of of classic games I've got on disc, plus some GoG titles etc. It's awesome.

Projects like OpenSpy also make some of the old dead titles playable again

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is why we still have 2G I heard. Telling regular customers to upgrade from 3G was easy. Like, what are they gonna do about it. But 2G is used by a lot of IoT devices, including gas and electric companies, and they're not upgrading that easily while I assume generating a significant revenue.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

What?

In the US at least, AT&T shut down 2G in 2017, Verizon in 2019, and T-Mobile started shutdown of 2G in 2022 but has it still hanging on but on it's final way out by the end of this year likely.

Even for Europe, a lot of 2G shutdowns started in 2022, and most places in Europe will have 2G phased out by the end of this year.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We then have RISC-V computer by Pine64 running Libre-ICEBlock

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't believe those will be accessible for people outside of Western markets.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unless the arriving country's customs decide to inspect it and seize it. You should be able to buy it anywhere.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There are plenty of ARM on PC examples and there will always be an alternative option that is open there. It's too entrenched.

We need to free mobile devices with function distros like mobian/postmarketos that are fully functional.

Yes there are, 90% can't run Linux. And PCs built to specificly run Linux will only be available to Western markets, everyone else will be stuck with whatever corpos put out because they will be excluded by the weak currencies they use and in some cases also by prohibitive import taxes.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Meh, Linux. There's an alternative for those who want it, not a big deal. Smartphones, and most ARM devices are just weird to me. Device specific images, flashing, crap. Why can't they just be PC-like?

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

Arm is slowly advancing on pcs.. We'll have bootlocked pcs in no time

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 34 points 1 day ago

Its so dumb.

It is not dumb, it is a smart business move that can only be made by a monopoly.

They literally just settled with FTC and now they got blank check to fuck the plebs.

It will get so much worse.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

All the "Western" Empires are in decline. A lot of Europe, Australia, Canada, USA are all doing this shit at the same time clearly in cooperation with one another for anti privacy.

The corporations meanwhile want their increasingly walled in gardens and diseased governments won't stop them as long as they get their back doors and data mines.

edit:

Reminded me of something. I was watching one of the few FuriOS reviews on YouTube, and the guy happened to be Australian. He took a moment to mention that he couldn't use the phone at all on specific mobile service providers because they only allowed white-listed pre-approved hardware.

That's pretty sickening.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago

and one country stands to benefit from this, and likely is behind the sudden all these countries doing it.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

All the “Western” Empires are in decline.

Its why I'm slowly losing my will to live.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Google, however, has decided anonymity is too risky. "

The rest of the sane universe appear to be deciding Google is too risky.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 37 points 1 day ago

The cognitive dissonance with saying that the current state of Android is "too risky" without giving a single example of why it supposedly is.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry for knitpicking, but saying "the rest of the sane world" implies Google is also sane.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Sane => Worry Google is a threat

Worry Google is a threat =/> Sane

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should rebrand it to aOS since it's quickly becoming just as shit trash as iOS. I wonder how many people will jump ship to iOS where they still get a shitty OS but with some modicum of privacy OOTB as an added bonus

My next phone is going to be as basic as possible and I'll have to start carrying a laptop with me everywhere again.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

A lot already have actually, writing was on the wall back when they dropped the version names which was also around the time a lot of the original Android hardware OEMs gave in which left us with carriers giving you the option between Samsung, Google, and Motorola.

Then they abused Trump's first term to ban Huawei for spyware since it was competing too well.

The frontend UI sucks, the backend ART sucks, the process pausing system can't hold most of your app views because reasons, Samsung removed OEM unlocking, Google has a stranglehold on decade old RCS with only google messages supporting such a protocol (wtf?????), AOSP is functionally dead, Gapps has been eating the left side of your homepage for years, etc etc.

I'm thinking about getting some handheld and making it into a PDA, like those upcoming DS-like consoles, and then maybe just get a pocket modem for phone/internet.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if only...

As part of this so-called improved verification, Google should also be held liable for any damages caused by malicious applications.

but no, regulators won't do shit and they'll have the cake and eat it too

governments are becoming the puppets of big tech, in 50 years we'll have night city IRL

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

i hope this shit gets hacked and cracked to allow the install of any apk so quickly.

guess i aint upgrading anymore. congrats google you made your own os less safe

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 23 hours ago

guess i aint upgrading anymore.

Oh, no, this will be pushed to devices. Ever seen the "your device has new features"?

also remove com.wssyncmldm to forcibly prevent your phone from updating

CAREFUL: when you reset, android updates itself to the newest version.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

$25? lol no, my next phone fill be either Linux or a flip phone.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I have 2 cheap options I could recommend for Custom ROMS:

  1. Moto G 5G 2024 $140 runs Lineage OS (I have this)
  2. CMF Phone 1 $290 runs e/OS, has OLED display, overall a better phone than the cheap moto.

I'm not sure about "Linux" atm, there are still more apps for Custom Roms than you'd find for Linux that's optimized for mobile use.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

This is so fucking bad.

[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

Just when I thought that I cannot possibly hate Google even more, I see D. Veloper.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If truly wish that were the way forward.

As it stands, name a good one that works with current apps and isn't a battery hog. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

This seems to be the closest

https://furilabs.com/

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