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Crazy, that thing I said would happen finally happened.
didn't take too long either
Ah yes, another reason not to give me ID to these tech companies. Anyone that demands my ID online can go fuck themselves while I find a replacement service.
No, that can't be right. Forced use of photo ID for age verification couldn't possibly lead to leakage of said IDs. The purity police assured us!
think of the children!!!!!! :< :< :< :< :<
Coincidentally an alarming lot of people that impose pure bullshit on us seems to think of the children a tad too much.
I know right! Now we got their IDs too! :D
/s
Lol I thought they were supposed to delete the ID images once confirmed
"Haha, and you believed us" -Discord
FTA: The IDs leaked were from people appealing age verification.
That's different from the age verification process, which goes through a third party provider.
In short, the leaked IDs were from a standard shitty support platform (Zendesk, Salesforce, etc), not the much-advertised "safe and private" age verification system.
But the ai training lol
Very first question in FAQ:
Q: Does Discord or k-ID keep my selfie data?
A: Discord only logs the k-ID age verification results used to unlock your account—it doesn’t save your selfie image. For questions about k-ID’s processes, please contact k-ID.
So they are going to blame someone else.
Best part:
The unauthorized party gained access to “information from a limited number of users who had contacted Discord through our Customer Support and/or Trust & Safety teams”
I knew this was gonna happen
Candidly, I did not expect it so soon.
I am honestly surprised it took this long for a company to get hacked(surprised it was discord though).
They're not the first. The first one happened in the same week the digital safety act was put in place
Noe that makes more sense.
IIRC it was before the end of the first day too haha
And you didn't tell Discord??
I am surprised it took this long. Probably happening since day one and just now getting reported.
Official statement from Discord: "Oopse woopse we did a fucky wucky. Sue us hahaha you won't"
I wish I could convince my giant discord community to go anywhere else. It's so fucking hard. I've built IRC networks and a matrix server. I host every fediverse app imaginable. I hate being attached to this company and my income being reliant on it.
Back in the day when our community was switching from xmpp to discord, our solution was to write a bot on either end that relayed messages from one to the other. The xmpp bot got more and more naggy over time until eventually we put the xmpp side in read-only for everyone except the relay bot. It did a good enough job at building momentum to switch that the final holdouts came over when we went r/o.
You might consider building something similar if you want to make a genuine effort to switch to matrix or IRC. A relay bot solves the problem of the first people being punished by virtue of being first.
Its a good suggestion and something I've considered. Unfortunately we're using conduit as our server and that type of integration doesn't seem to work well outside of synapse. That said I know some people have gotten it working I just need to dig a little deeper. It's a chore for sure but it seems like the only path forward.
I hear you. I used to teach classes in a particular field and most people followed our updates and events on Facebook. I tried for years to change that and pry people loose from the Zuck. Mostly unsuccessfully. I agree with the other user who suggested bridging protocols. Bridge them then incentivise use of the good one and/or disincentivise use of the evil one to naturally encourage people to migrate.
Indeed, seems the only path forward. Thansk for sharing.
I tried getting my friends to move to any other chat client but the thing that keeps them on discord is the screen share. Like it or not, this feature is what's locking people in as a one stop shop game streaming chat.
Signal app on pc can screen share. I share with mates all the time through it
did you ever use jitsi? its not a chat platform, but one for video calls. it supports screen sharing and its very good. it works standalone, there are public instances
matrix used to use jitsi for group calls. I don't know what does it use now as a transition to an in house service has been in the works for a few years now, and element call just now starts to get mature enough, but I'm almost sure you can do screen sharing right now too. but try to check how usable it is before you try to get your friends to use it. if it doesn't work well, they may not accept your advice (as easily) in the future to switch chat providers
Absolutely! I brought it into another group for corporate stuff and it was great. We also used it over COVID lockdown for games with another group of friends.
I'll do more research on Matrix and see if i can set something up for a truly seamless transition. Thanks for the suggestion!
One of Discord’s third-party customer service providers was compromised by an “unauthorized party,” the company says.
So, not Discord but a 3rd party company that handle Discord's customer service, and if you didn't use their customer service then you're not affected.
So, Discord - by forcing your acceptance of their tos which renders them immune from damages done by "third parties*
By offloading a term of service that Discord requires you to provide.
If they force you to give the info, they are responsible for handling and storing it properly, no matter what some evil lawyer or exec says.
If laws make bad things legal because rich people can use words, then there needs to be some form of redress to return the spirit of the laws to the people.
Maybe we all make usernames with a legally binding personal ToS that is deemed agreed upon by the corporation accepting the username.
This is just a shell game and they are conmen.
I am jack's complete lack of surprise
So they kept the images illegally, hm?
Can someone please send this to Keir Starmer with the subject like "Look what you did".
*gasp*
surprisedpikachu.jpeg
This was kind of breach so predictable even surprisedpikachu.txt isn't enough, but it must be done.
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Called it.
And the "Tea" app leak happened right before these age-verification rules started popping up everywhere. It's obvious cause and effect, but it was also demonstrated RIGHT before.
Don't put your hand on a hot stove, especially after watching someone burn their hand on that hot stove.
I really wish there was a good competitor to Discord. I have not found one that has the same screen sharing feature. Revolt (now Stoat) gets close but lacks the screen sharing - something me and my friends use a lot. They are adding this soon so hopefully it is good
Now more than ever people will have to choose between privacy and comfort. And not to be a dick, but now more than ever, people choosing comfort are fucking over people who choose privacy.