Guns and bunkers would help at first though
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Damn, really sounds like you were just listing off all the traits of Anarchism
Learned how to chop wood today
Doing a light version of the cabin in the woods thing ("F*** this city! I'm gonna go live in a cabin in the woods!")
Interestingly enough I am doing this cause I'm a musician and need a place where I won't bother anyone with my noise. Two birds one feeder, as the saying goes
Haven't heard the phrase, "two birds, one feeder," but I am partial to "feeding two birds with one scone."
Oooh, that's much better! I'll be using that!
Not just their professional trades. Cultivate skills. Cooking, repair, gardening, etc.
Maybe learn Vietnamese. They fought the French, the US, China, and Cambodia one after the other, and won. They must know some shit.
That or Dari. Afghans might know a thing or two
If you aren't armed and prepared to defend yourself and your community, you are just gathering resources and slaves for the people that are armed and want your stuff and want to turn you into slaves or corpses.
America 😬
Establishing a community garden is a lot of fun actually. We have one in our house but it is not very big so you basically get a single vegetable every now and then but the whole working with the ground, keeping the irrigation system intact is soothing.
Where I live we have a CSA farm (Community-owned agriculture). You can join the coop to get a weekly share of veg and either do a day's work on the farm each week, or pay an amount each month. It's honestly amazing, it feels like I've hacked the system. I get cheap, organic veg grown less than a mile away and harvested the day before I collect it and it's upskilling and connecting the local community.
yeah, that's very cool. there is nothing more satisfying than planting a bunch of seeds, watching them grow - you start to notice how much stuff they go through. It took me about two and a half months to get my first batch of plum tomatoes and just holding one of them in my hand felt like i just did something right.
Oh yeah, that's an amazing feeling! No tomato ever tastes as good as the one first one you grow and pick.
yeah, it ruined supermarket tomatoes forever for me - after a while you can almost taste the chemistry in them.
Or fight fascists to prevent a doomsday. Instead of voting them into office.
There's a significant percentage of preppers who want doomsday to come, because they think they will get to be a leader & have an "I told you so" moment, instead of the community seizing the spoils of their preparation.
They all think they'll be Immortan Joe, and not the legless dude living in the bombed out sewer begging for water.
Or raiders in the best case. People with guns and small amount of food but nothing else really.
And most preppers prepped for the wrong doomsday. Many got screwed during covid because they only prepped for war. It would also be shit if you prepped your entire life, spent thousands on it, then it to never happen. And most preppers think they prepped properly, but they lack the intelligence and/or skills to actually use everything they have or they forgot crucial components.
They rioted because they couldn't go to Dennys or get professional haircuts, they weren't prepared for anything.
I have to say, i was brexit prepping for a while and when covid hit it was a little satisfying sitting there with my well stocked pantry and decent stocks of toilet roll while other people were queueing out of the supermarkets
I had most of what I needed to survive but I raced out to buy rum, mixer, and cheap red wine. I spent a month getting wine drunk and learning to appreciate Rihanna.
Fair, but that's not doomsday prepping. I also have a well stocked pantry in case the payment system gets hacked and shops can't open, or something similar. That's always smart, to prepare for at least a week food wise. But that's different than hoarding war meals, weapons, combat gear, water purification systems, diesel generator and loads of fuel, etc. in your backyard bunker.
Accelerationnists. Interestingly they come in all flavours of the political spectrum.
The sad part is that so many people feel this is the only way to become a winning, respected member of their local community.
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These people figure everyone else will do the hard stuff, and one day they’ll all come to their senses after rebuilding and realize they need a beans and guns guy. It’s a kind of narcissistic laziness.
Those fuckers probably have turrets outside their bunkers and will shoot on site.
Turrets run out of ammo eventually they also need a vent for air. Would be real bad if they got blocked.
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Nah....the people who fill their bunker with beans and guns are the same people who will use their guns to take from those who build gardens and communities.
In other words, they want all of the benefits of a community without putting in anything in return.
Or to put it even more simply: conservatives.
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Sorry about that, being in a usa school shell shocked me a little too much on active shooting events.
Here I was hoping for a MF Doom reference. That said, in a doomsday scenario wouldn't your biggest threats be the neighbors you have? If you needed tools that don't break easily that's no big deal, but if you have something sensitive that's pretty risky to share (a pick axe is less critical than a generator for example). A community garden would be good, but if one of your neighbors is a self absorbed sociopath they would probably raid the community garden. Why do you need to learn to sew and patch when every department store probably has a life time worth of extra clothes? For self defense it's hard to argue against having a bunch of guns. For first aid, outside of administering it to yourself and your close network offense is the best defense. In an actual doomsday scenario it's much easier to shoot first and ask questions later than it is to mend wounds on yourself and others.
I'm all for a post apocalyptic socialist commune, but all it takes is one nut job for the peaceful socialist commune to turn into a fascist dictatorship. Unless everyone you know is of the same sociopolitical opinion as you, or if there are no guns around, then I'd still be stacking up guns if I could.
Let's be honest, if there is a global apocalypse and the only people left are the billionaires in their bunkers, how long are they really going to hang around doing their own laundry, eating canned food, and watching reruns?
They will be rapidly killed by their private military teams and a bunch of warlords will break out from that.
Iirc they are thinking about putting some kind of Killswitch collar to their "bodyguards" in "exchange" of a place in the bunker should an event arrive for this reason.
Porque no los dos?
Community engagement is vital, and we should all be involved with outreach, education, and mutual aid.
I think we all understand that we're on our own now, and if we want our communities to survive and thrive we need to take ownership and contribute.
But it's naive as fuck to pretend we won't be on our own protecting those communities as well. Arm up, train up.
Exactly, thank you!
These two ideas are not mutually exclusive, do both. I train with my neighbors fairly regularly, at the range (including tactical training), hunting, fishing, navigation (land and ocean), first aid certifications, etc.. We also work together to keep an eye on our neighborhood and on behalf of our other neighbors (early COVID times were absolutely wild here). I maintain a several HAM radios and a base station, and worked with some of my neighbors to help obtain their licenses. We all garden, cook, and do home repair and IT.
Unfortunately since we live near a major metro area when SHTF the best mid term plan is to bug out entirely, so we have updated plans for rendezvous and exfil to specific less populated areas. And as far as I know most households have bags ready to go.
I wouldn't go as far as saying we're preppers, we certainly don't imagine ourselves that way. We just acknowledge that disasters happen and our society isn't equipped to take care of an entire metropolis. We're not under any illusions of being master survivors.
I feel like this is just common sense, not paranoia. In school we all had it drilled into our heads to keep extra water, preserved food, and bags ready in case of a major earthquake (common enough in our area). I don't see why our planning isn't just a natural extension of that kind of preparedness.
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