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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Guns and bunkers would help at first though

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Damn, really sounds like you were just listing off all the traits of Anarchism

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Learned how to chop wood today

Doing a light version of the cabin in the woods thing ("F*** this city! I'm gonna go live in a cabin in the woods!")

Interestingly enough I am doing this cause I'm a musician and need a place where I won't bother anyone with my noise. Two birds one feeder, as the saying goes

[–] beebers@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haven't heard the phrase, "two birds, one feeder," but I am partial to "feeding two birds with one scone."

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oooh, that's much better! I'll be using that!

[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago

Not just their professional trades. Cultivate skills. Cooking, repair, gardening, etc.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe learn Vietnamese. They fought the French, the US, China, and Cambodia one after the other, and won. They must know some shit.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

That or Dari. Afghans might know a thing or two

[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you aren't armed and prepared to defend yourself and your community, you are just gathering resources and slaves for the people that are armed and want your stuff and want to turn you into slaves or corpses.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

America 😬

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or fight fascists to prevent a doomsday. Instead of voting them into office.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There's a significant percentage of preppers who want doomsday to come, because they think they will get to be a leader & have an "I told you so" moment, instead of the community seizing the spoils of their preparation.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They all think they'll be Immortan Joe, and not the legless dude living in the bombed out sewer begging for water.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Or raiders in the best case. People with guns and small amount of food but nothing else really.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And most preppers prepped for the wrong doomsday. Many got screwed during covid because they only prepped for war. It would also be shit if you prepped your entire life, spent thousands on it, then it to never happen. And most preppers think they prepped properly, but they lack the intelligence and/or skills to actually use everything they have or they forgot crucial components.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They rioted because they couldn't go to Dennys or get professional haircuts, they weren't prepared for anything.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have to say, i was brexit prepping for a while and when covid hit it was a little satisfying sitting there with my well stocked pantry and decent stocks of toilet roll while other people were queueing out of the supermarkets

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I had most of what I needed to survive but I raced out to buy rum, mixer, and cheap red wine. I spent a month getting wine drunk and learning to appreciate Rihanna.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Fair, but that's not doomsday prepping. I also have a well stocked pantry in case the payment system gets hacked and shops can't open, or something similar. That's always smart, to prepare for at least a week food wise. But that's different than hoarding war meals, weapons, combat gear, water purification systems, diesel generator and loads of fuel, etc. in your backyard bunker.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Accelerationnists. Interestingly they come in all flavours of the political spectrum.

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (9 children)

We all gotta start punching more fascists.

(I can't fight and I'm weak shit, so can someone throw in an extra hit on my behalf please? I'll get you a milkshake as thanks.)

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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 67 points 3 days ago (4 children)

These people figure everyone else will do the hard stuff, and one day they’ll all come to their senses after rebuilding and realize they need a beans and guns guy. It’s a kind of narcissistic laziness.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 119 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those fuckers probably have turrets outside their bunkers and will shoot on site.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Turrets run out of ammo eventually they also need a vent for air. Would be real bad if they got blocked.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Get a single back hoe and pour rocks in front of the door.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nah....the people who fill their bunker with beans and guns are the same people who will use their guns to take from those who build gardens and communities.

In other words, they want all of the benefits of a community without putting in anything in return.

Or to put it even more simply: conservatives.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago

I've played an enormous amount of post apocalyptic simulations and video games, so I've got some insight on how this typically goes:

The bunkers with beans and guns are rare, but usually whoever is inside died of something really common, like an infection, broken leg or a stroke, and was unable to get medical aid in time.

There's also loot boxes/caches in the woods where you see someone tried to be completely solo and typically "having weapons" is way less valuable than knowing how to use them

The OG meme is right, you need other people in "the apocalypse", going it alone is a death sentence, even basic things can become enormously difficult (many hands make for light work)

Make sure at least one of the people you know is a doctor, surgeon, or nurse of some kind

And if the "guns-people" ever band together (band-its) and try to take stuff away, they typically don't have coordinated field tactics or military discipline, it's a slog but battling the cannibals with a regular army does eventually result in their extinction

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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Establishing a community garden is a lot of fun actually. We have one in our house but it is not very big so you basically get a single vegetable every now and then but the whole working with the ground, keeping the irrigation system intact is soothing.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where I live we have a CSA farm (Community-owned agriculture). You can join the coop to get a weekly share of veg and either do a day's work on the farm each week, or pay an amount each month. It's honestly amazing, it feels like I've hacked the system. I get cheap, organic veg grown less than a mile away and harvested the day before I collect it and it's upskilling and connecting the local community.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, that's very cool. there is nothing more satisfying than planting a bunch of seeds, watching them grow - you start to notice how much stuff they go through. It took me about two and a half months to get my first batch of plum tomatoes and just holding one of them in my hand felt like i just did something right.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, that's an amazing feeling! No tomato ever tastes as good as the one first one you grow and pick.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yeah, it ruined supermarket tomatoes forever for me - after a while you can almost taste the chemistry in them.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Sorry about that, being in a usa school shell shocked me a little too much on active shooting events.

[–] flapperfivethousand@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Let's be honest, if there is a global apocalypse and the only people left are the billionaires in their bunkers, how long are they really going to hang around doing their own laundry, eating canned food, and watching reruns?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will be rapidly killed by their private military teams and a bunch of warlords will break out from that.

[–] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iirc they are thinking about putting some kind of Killswitch collar to their "bodyguards" in "exchange" of a place in the bunker should an event arrive for this reason.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Porque no los dos?

Community engagement is vital, and we should all be involved with outreach, education, and mutual aid.

I think we all understand that we're on our own now, and if we want our communities to survive and thrive we need to take ownership and contribute.

But it's naive as fuck to pretend we won't be on our own protecting those communities as well. Arm up, train up.

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[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Here I was hoping for a MF Doom reference. That said, in a doomsday scenario wouldn't your biggest threats be the neighbors you have? If you needed tools that don't break easily that's no big deal, but if you have something sensitive that's pretty risky to share (a pick axe is less critical than a generator for example). A community garden would be good, but if one of your neighbors is a self absorbed sociopath they would probably raid the community garden. Why do you need to learn to sew and patch when every department store probably has a life time worth of extra clothes? For self defense it's hard to argue against having a bunch of guns. For first aid, outside of administering it to yourself and your close network offense is the best defense. In an actual doomsday scenario it's much easier to shoot first and ask questions later than it is to mend wounds on yourself and others.

I'm all for a post apocalyptic socialist commune, but all it takes is one nut job for the peaceful socialist commune to turn into a fascist dictatorship. Unless everyone you know is of the same sociopolitical opinion as you, or if there are no guns around, then I'd still be stacking up guns if I could.

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