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Bought a fp 5 lately. It's a quality nightmare. Has a bug regarding 'fluid in usb port' error message. Consequence: phone does not charge. Phone is brand new. Google the bug. Turns out a hundreds of other users reported the bug already 9 months back via fp user forum. Nothing has happened. They just let it rot.
Sent it to repair. Got it back with the same bug again. Have had all fp models in the past. Was okay happy, but my fp journey ends here. I think the company has serious problems.
Fairphones are almost certainly less profitable than their Apple/Pixel competitors.
But a big chunk of that cost is coming from advertising. Another big chunk is stock buybacks. There's so much fat to cut before you actually get to hardware/software quality.
Fairphones have a worse record than any other phone I ever owned in regards to sustainability for me. The phones become unusable as soon as the new model releases due to their non existing software quality, and it seems that they just stop bothering with tests for their previous models. I bought the Fairphone 4 for myself and the Fairphone 5 for my mother and both had software issues without end. In both cases the ability to make and receive phone calls broke after an android update. Imagine not being able to call emergency services because of a software update. Imagine dying because the developers at Fairphone didn't bother to test their shit. That is not even mentioning that security updates were also always months late. I truly wanted to like them but I couldn't be bothered with these broken phones anymore and bought a refurbished Pixel, for not even half the price of a Fairphone, and flashed it with GrapheneOS instead.
Bummer.
Imagine dying
I gotta say, you had me until you cranked it to 11.
Not being able to call with a phone after an OS update is definitely a deal breaker. But "if I don't have my phone on me, I'll die" is the kind of hyperbole that has me doubt your entire testimonial.
Imagine dying wasn't hyperbole it is a real concern of mine. I commute with a bicycle to work and also cycle a lot in my free time. I wouldn't be the first cyclist injured or even killed in a hit and run accident, so a phone that is unable to make a emergency call when I need it is not something I am willing to risk.
If you're hit by a car bad enough then I'd imagine the chances of your Florine breaking during a crash is pretty high, no?
Personally, my Florine is unbreakable.
It was referring to not being able to call emergency services, which may realistically lead to your death. It's a fairly unlikely scenario, but not a completely crazy one. It's just a highlight in a sea of issues. Or at least that's how it looks to me, as I've never used a Fairphone. Some people say they work flawlessly.
Also the best path for sustainability is to NOT BUY A NEW PHONE EVERY 2-3 YEARS.
Don't buy fairphone. Try to run your current phone for 7 more years.
I use my phones until they start crashing due to battery issues.
Tends to be about 6 years for that to happen, at least with the mid range phones I tend to buy.
My Nexus 4 did not survive an intense summer of Pokemon Go, and my Huawei Honor whatever number it was eventually would die just from opening the camera. I'd get the batteries replaced, but by the time they die I'm feeling the age of them even more than in my knees.
I think you can change some batteries. Managed to change a pixel's battery by myself using a hair drier.
Me and my family just changed like 3 phone batteries for fucking change. Local shop charges 50RON (Ro) (10 EUR) per battery change WITH LABOR. New batteries installed. All reporting 101% in Accubattery, from 60-70% before. Can you guys not get cheap battery replacements?
I tried giving them 2x the money and they straight up refused. These guys are crazy.
That's awesome. What a low price.
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I agree and that was the reason I initially chose a Fairphone but the promised 7 years of security updates also turned out to be a half-truth, after three years I only got quarterly security updates. I tolerated four years of buggy software the update that broke the phone part of my smartphone was just the last nail in the coffin.
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Only if you still get security updates for those 7 years, which is I think the case with the Pixels, and some Samsung flagships, but is very far from being the norm. You don't want a non-updated phone.
Edit: of course that also works if you can switch to an alternate rom that does receive the updates.
Or use an iPhone because they get updates for near a decade, but that’s the wrong tribe
If you don't click on any weird links, you can still go without updates right?
not necessarily. Plenty of exploits do not rely on links or downloads, and there's a whole class of "zero-click" exploits. Usually, such critical vulnerabilities are quickly patched. But after a system stops receiving updates, they can add up.
I have an old perfectly functional android phone that I like to use for playing games.
How would they know to target the phone?
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For me Fairphone has been good. I bought my fp3 on release in 2019 for about 400 euro and it is still going strong today, 6 years later (I am in fact using it right now)
Not to say that there haven't been software problems at all but it has not been that bad and was fixed over time.
Also had no big problems with my FP4
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Except Fairphones are usually overpriced for the quality...
Then why are fairphones so expensive for their specs?
Because they cannot bulk buy parts and hire engineers like how the larger manufacturers can.
So then... sustainable phones cost more?
I think the idea is that you can make them but the large manufacturers actively choose not to, because being anti-consumer, anti-sustainability, and anti-repair is not a problem in their business model, it's a core strategy of it.
It is a myth that being sustainable is why.
Well not if larger manufacturers made them I guess? Fairphone just doesn't get the same prices even from the same vendors, if there's any that overlap between say them and Samsung.
Fairphone 6 is great by the way! Coming from a long time iPhone user.
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Where's that headphone jack boyo?
Every time someone mentions the headphone jack, comes a legion of people defending the corporations. People will really accept anything they do and bully the ones who don't want to submit. That's impressive! And we're in a place with higher-than-average corporation haters.
It's even more impressive when we think about how Bluetooth earphone users don't gain anything by removing the jack, neither lose anything by keeping it. It literally doesn't affect them, but heavily affects anyone who uses wired phones or other stuff. People simply use their energy against others, in favor of corporations for absolutely no benefits for them, but simply for fucking the other people. I can't understand this behavior.
The GD phone is modular and repairable. How TF did they manage not to make the jack at least an option?
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