this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules


Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.


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What Happened?

Jordan has been abusing his position as a moderator and, likely, as a community team member for months. Plenty of people have made posts about it. I made one myself which detailed a bunch of the things that he did.. However, do note that this is a reupload of the text of that post. To look at the comments, you'd have to click this link. All my comments and the post itself are deleted. Why? Explained at the bottom. Two admins from Lemmy.world replied to that post and detailed that they both did not want Jordan as the face of Lemmy.world as well as saying two things

  1. They had been in talks for days prior to my post about Jordans behavior

  2. That they had warned Jordan in the past about one particular behavior involving misinformation about a user and Canadian political terms.

In that post, Jordan came to his own defense. During that, he stipulated that he did nothing wrong with the misinformation situation. In doing so he demonstrated either that the admins never did warn him or that he did not internalize/care about the warning and rejected it out of hand. He was doubling down on the same behavior and justifying it.

In the same post, MrKaplan (one of the LW Admins) said that they were in talks about Jordan but nothing was said publicly. After about a week, I left and moved over to dbzero while leaving my LW account up to direct towards dbzer0. I made a goodbye to LW post as well as updating the YPTB post.

Not long after I made that, a post was made to the Lemmy.world announcements community saying that the admins were aware of Jordans behavior and were discussing it as well as giving some truly handwavy, handwringy justifications that made little to no sense as to why they couldn't remove Jordan.

The Update

Last night, an update was applied to that LW Announcement post. They had changed the listing of mods so that Jordan was no longer the top mod of any community and gave him a warning. A warning. We already had public demonstrations that he did not heed those warnings and was actively doubling down, saying he was correct. They did a thing they were aware he would ignore. That is equivalent to inaction. The bullet went through the ghost when you shot at it? Well, clearly time to shoot a second time!

To make things worse, when they changed who was top mod on the communities, they didn't warn them. Didn't warn one of them at least. @JonsJava@lemmy.world. Jons commented saying that he wasn't notified of this decision and the only warning he was given was days prior about the fact that as top mod he could remove Jordan if he wanted to. So to insulate themselves from having to make an actual decision, the admins instead shifted the order of the modteam and forced two users to become complicit in the situation in ways they weren't. While Jons was head mod of Jordan over on /c/News, he wasn't on another community. It seems like Jons was also staying out of the Jordan situation specifically to let the Admins make a decision which they punted back into his court.

This doesn't even make sense to me. On one hand they're doing something by taking him off of the modlist as top mod so clearly they're willing to do something. But on the other hand they're not willing to do a single thing of consequence. They claim that they're handcuffed by rules that they created yet their own listed rules openly demonstrate that Jordan can be removed. They have the head of lemmy.world saying that he doesn't want Jordan to be the face of the instance yet they're not exactly doing much about it.

I deleted my lemmy.world account last night and all associated posts. This weird behavior of protecting Jordan and ignoring behavior that goes against what they explicitly say and then throwing other moderators under the bus is not exactly a great look. One I want exactly zero part in.

You can sit there and say I wanna play investigative reporter or that I'm an attention whore or whatever else. I don't really care. I've been called worse by better people. But people keep pointing out the fact that I'm kinda recognizable on lemmy and I just got zero interest in backing the Lemmy equivalent of Reddit when I left reddit partially due to this wishy washy horseshit.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Adding in here that he permabanned me from several Lemmys for being a feminist and not breaking any stated rules

Beginning of convo of us discussing my ban itt: https://lemmy.world/post/32343339/18042522

Transcripts (and screencaps in later comment to ArcWolf) of DMs from when JL originally banned me: https://lemmy.world/post/32343339/18014715

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Playing investigative reporter is cool though. Especially if you nail the role.

Still in favor of defederating that shit hole cess pool .world.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago (33 children)

Always some kind of mod or admin drama at LW.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they don't want to be featured and talked about as a big issues for Lemmy/piefed, they could stop being a garbage fire.

But instead they keep doing what they did before the fire and insist that doing nothing puts it out.

they could stop being garbage fire

I'm not so sure they could.

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[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To anybody concerned: don't engage with .world communities. Instead, bring your traffic to similar communities on other instances. The ability to do this is one of the main points of federation, and .world with its shitty moderation holds way too much sway in the (let's be honest) still-tiny threadiverse.

It's easiest to do this, on Lemmy at least, by blocking .world as an instance. Doing so won't block .world users commenting elsewhere, although when Lemmy 1.0 ships you'll have that option too. But blocking .world forces you to build a vibrant thriving threadiverse elsewhere without a too-large and too-problematic instance siphoning away any of your traffic and growing even larger as a result. I do this, and I don't feel I'm missing out by doing so.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm doing my part.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I fully admit you're stronger than me. I understand posting online isn't intense labor, I do plenty of that on my job.

But your dedication to helping allvate this problem yourself when the admins refuse to deal with one person that they can do anything about is impressive. I just detest .world and avoid it when I can. I've been insulted enough by it's active users that I don't really like the instance.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Am unfortunately in the same boat, with only occasional bursts of capacity/motivation to properly look after the coms I made in my enthusiasm for Lemmy in 2023

(not that I think less of Lemmy now, I just seldomly get a drive like that anymore)

Edit: As in proactively mod in a way that would be fullfilling the standard I expect myself to have. I still respond to reports if they are made in the first place and not handled by unruffled or other instance admins first.

Edit2: unfortunately when I do get the drive, it sometimes correlates with mental instability and I overdo it ~w~

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I left reddit for lemmy. I did not leave reddit for reddit 2.0. I couldn't do anything about that other site but I sure as fuck can do something about it here. Even if that's just throwing memes at a new community and making a couple of posts on YPTB.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

Some people on SJW and .world were genuinely not able to understand what I meant when I said in c/Fediverse (or something adjacent) that Lemmy was made to be a Reddit alternative, but the opposite of a Reddit 2.0. They were not able to grasp why a Reddit 2.0 would be bad...

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I blocked .world in Boost and it's actually been kind of nice. I feel like I'm seeing a lot more of the Fediverse than I would have otherwise.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.cafe 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Absolute shit behavior, I expected better out of them. Throwing a grenade into the laps of your top mods to deal with is so so low.

I will be abandoning .world myself, I have already stopped posting from my .world account and will be recreating any comms I come across that don't have an off-world/off-ml alternative

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Cannot say that I blame you, my friend. This shit is fucking absurd.

[–] Blaze@lazysoci.al 13 points 1 week ago

I will be be abandoning .world myself, I have already stopped posting from my .world account and will be recreating any comms I come across that don’t have an off-world/off-ml alternative

Thank you for your help on non-world communities

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I expected better out of them

Out of curiosity why?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

Generally, we give people the benefit of the doubt unless we've seen them to be malicious.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had concluded they were trying to run things professionally and balanced, some of their..."quirky"...decisions I could overlook as growing pains and just problems that come from running something so large.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I mean from the start it's been them only doing the appearance of running it professionally. This isn't even the most recent time they've hung their asses out, see them saying we need to respect flat earthers or follow German law when they're not based in Germany

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even expecting nothing that update is a fucking joke. Figured they'd honestly do something other than we've investigated us and found nothing wrong after even admitting it was bad enough to remove from a mod conduct? group.

Still thanks for all you did stamets. Only reason they're even doing lip service here is from your posts on it.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't go that far. Jordan has been talked about for a long time. They were being backed into a corner well before me.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No I definitely would simply because they flat out ignored this https://lemmy.world/post/35918814 until your write up

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[–] TheGiantKorean@yall.theatl.social 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My .world account (and comments, and posts) go bye-bye.

Really not cool to pass the buck to the top mods to absolve themselves of responsibility.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Not at fucking all. I'm honestly flabberghasted by it all.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

https://lemmy.world/comment/19798103

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21679248

What the fuck is up with Serinus replying to my 8 day old comment calling out JordanLund's documented behavior of banning those who prove him wrong?

Why he is writing like a comic book mystery villain?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

why is he replying to

Trying to excuse himself for some new bullshit

mystery villain

Because thats cool. Would you rather he talk like "BRING ME THE HEAD OF THE BATMAN!"? That would get old pretty quick. I much prefer this. Maybe think before you talk shit about people next time?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I could not care less what Serinus has to say. He got uppity when I first made the JL post not due to the content but because I didn't warn him. When he found out that I had told the admins he backed off. The only reason to inform him is because he's on the same community team that Jordan was just kicked off of. Dudes attempting to do damage control for his friend. He can keep whining all he wants. He just isn't important enough to even be on my radar.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uppity is not a great word to use anymore, it's pretty charged

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

for the downvoters, it's very much tied to the european genocide of african peoples during the period of ~1500-1900 and remains as a holdover

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's best about that comment is it completely ignores everything and says just ignore everything it's a witch hunt

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This would be funny if it wasn't just so pathetic. Does jordan have dirt on the admins or something?

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[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember your post, and the handwringing admin response. I also remember thinking that it seemed like they were making a good faith effort.

Just minutes ago I was scrolling down a worldnews post and i saw jordanlund's name still on the modlist and blocked worldnews.

Have they explained their decision at all, after that entire essay? Or did it just happen one day that jordan was not-even-demoted and no explanation was made for their final decision?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Effectively it was "The rules we have implemented do not allow us to remove him at this time" despite the rules they pointed out being rules that Jordan 100% violated. Publicly. They then said they're going to look through his stuff on the Community Team and see if there was any bad actions there and if so take further action. They expect its going to end here.

They're fucking spineless.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Absolutely beyond pathetic. What a joke of an instance.

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