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[–] Master167@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when this all started and Russia’s messaging was about how it was gonna be about 2 weeks top to complete it’s special operation.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

3-day military operation.. bring your parade gear because you’ll be marching to victory.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Considering how cheap life is in Russia, and how expensive recruitment bonuses are, I'm surprised they haven't already switched to conscription which they have a long history of.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They have conscription, but Russia can't send conscripts abroad unless they're at war, and this is a special military operation, not a war. The real question is "Why don't they go to war, and send the conscripts?" And the answer why people don't understand why Russia doesn't is because they think Russia is a single country. That's a very normal thought to have when you live in the west, because say, France or Poland, are a single country.

But Russia is basically two countries. You've got Moscow, which has 20 million people and is slightly bigger than the Netherlands, and Saint Petersburg which has 6 million people but is also somewhat smaller. Those two cities are where the government sits, it's where all the decisions are made, where all the companies are, where all the capital sits and all the investements get made. Moscow has technology, internet, plumbing, subways, etc etc.

And then there's the entire rest of Russia, which you can sorta-kinda view as a massive colonial empire of Moscow. They get to decide nothing, they exist to provide labour for all of Moscow's capital and to have resources that can be exploited. It's where all the GDP comes from, yet they have no money because all that mineral wealth immediately goes back to Moscow.

Declaring war and sending in the conscripts would mean people from Moscow (read: People who actually matter) would get send to war, as opposed to the "colonial troops". Literally nobody in Russia cares about what happens to the 4 million people living in de Federal Republic of Bashkortostan (it's a real place, I promise), but everyone cares what happens to the people in 140.000 people in Kolpino, because it's part of St. Petersburg.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Huh. Well, I was today many years old when I learned about this.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is gonna be one hard sell.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 9 hours ago

dont worry, putin is just grabbing the undesirables, from the poor regions,aka ethnic russians, and not the white russians moscow and st petersberg area.

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago

The cost of the war against ukraine is increasing as the income from petroleum is falling.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They've crunched the numbers and know the vast majority of those people will die long before they are entitled to the money. They just won't pay the rest.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Not true. The sign up bonuses go to their next of kin. Russia is legitimately paying it out.

There are entire regions that have regeared their local economies to depend on these payouts. Because it's mostly underdeveloped regions signing up, this has become the most bizarre and macabre investment program in the world. Here's an excellent video on the topic.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 hours ago

And that's why do many Russian casualties have just disappeared, and not been reported as KIA. To not pay the family.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

I've heard of plenty of cases were people (or their next of kin) didn't get shit. I'll grant that that was from the first 2 years of the war, maybe they got their act together.

[–] murvel@feddit.nu -4 points 10 hours ago

ty AI bot, very informative

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

they still can send 70million people to ukraine, and not care about it.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Who has told the Russian people that we will allow ( American Imperialism to flourish.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Easy to do when you save money from not paying the families of the dead.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Russian regions are massively boosting military sign-up bonuses to lure more people to die in Ukraine