Why can't we attack these criminals ourselves and claim self defense? They are going to destroy the world just to make rich people a tiny bit richer.
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2025
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Yes please! Jail them, and let them pay! Why should we as ordinary people pay if the big polluters like the oil and gas industry lied for decades and made their ceo's rich? Use the money for measures against climate change and to help the poor. The poor people are hit the hardest by climate change and will have to pay in blood and misery...
- yes
- you have to criminalize the ones who did the deciding, the ones who signed-off on the destruction: the executives. Nothing else will ever produce the required deterrent/effect.
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Crimes against humanity, if it kills thousands of people.
Murder should be judged by its effects, not by the means. Killing other people for personal profit is at least very close to murder.
You should read The Ministry for the Future to see how they handle climate criminals (CEOs of fossil fuel industry associations, far right lobbyists, etc.)
Kim Stanley Robinson’s books are well worth exploring
It would be a massive improvement if we treated their crimes like fraud and theft, but it's nice to dream.
This assumes it is a top down decision in the first place. Often it is not such a decision. To assume an intellectual hierarchy is a fallacy. You will face an extremely grey area of prosecuting tens or hundreds of people with no clear person to blame. In other words, dichotomous logic is always wrong and reflective of a lack of fundamental logic skills and life experience. The solution is real capitalism where every infraction is cause for failure., and no favoritism exists. Size should be an insurmountable burden in real capitalism. Then a well informed citizen, like a real democracy, is the regulating factor instead of an untenable and inept authoritarian bureaucracy.
Like how corporations and global leaders are punished for murdering people?
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