Me with ADHD who can't do shit from home, hiding in the back corner of the open space.
Work Reform
A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
Is this linked wrong? The article is about swimming for health not WFH.
oddly, the link goes to the right article, then the site redirects to the swimming article,
here it is on another site
https://evidencenetwork.ca/remote-work-increases-happiness-4-year-study-findings/
edit: it's someone elses take, looking for original
edit2: OK, the original article is from 2020, there are updartes in 2024.
This page does a better job covering the the couple of gallup polls and some of the criteria listed
though the site is sus to me :)
This has been correct for all of human history. I’m not sure why anyone would have assumed the invention of the cubicle would have changed this.
Every time this comes up i tell my personal and data driven experience as a middle manager in a company, and every time people trash me, but i keep saying it.
IT FUCKING DEPENDS!
From purely data point of view (note: this is from my place of work) workers whose work is purely executing more or less the same duties every day had their productivity have a nose dive when working long stretches from home. Also their works quality got worse. Its easy to reinforce bad habits whitout even noticing it, if the feedback comes from email and and not straight from the supervisor.
BUT with jobs like coders or artists where the job is more open ended instead of monotous labor there was no ill effects.
Then on the other side communication has gotten much slower with the people working from outside office. Where i used to just walk to the other room and ask something from my collegue i now need to message them in our internal and hope they notice it. Getting answers for questions have turned from 5 minute thing to 10-40 minute things.
Also from the point of more inventive things on my work we have lost a lot of changes to brainstorm ideas. No more throwing ideas around during lunch or coffee breaks
The article does have this caveat.
"Context still matters. Job type, home setting, and leadership quality vary. Yet the direction remains positive. Even with modest differences by role, the health and satisfaction curves point upward. Inside those curves, remote work behaves as a flexible option that organizations can calibrate rather than a rigid rule."
Though I will say your argument is still centered around being productive and effective for the company (make money for the company), the article specifically centers around an individual's well-being (sleep, family life etc.). So not the same metrics.
Other articles and research I've seen that did center on productivity did conclude that yes, it depends.
How about the workers' wellbeing? Is that ever considered?
Out of curiosity, can you describe, with a bit more detail, the kind of work that was repetitive and became worse?
In the field of organizational psychology (which research like this is typically done by), the phrase "it depends" is used so often among scientists that it's a running gag at this point
I liked working from home at first, but after so long it becomes harder and harder to leave your work at "work" when your workplace is also your home. Now I am back in the office and actually prefer it that way. I have the flexibility to work from home on weekends or when I need to be home for some reason, which is good enough for me.
If you're working at home on weekends, it doesn't sound like you're leaving work at work.
I work in an industry that doesn't sleep, that doesn't mean I'm putting in more than 40 hours a week on a regular basis. But we need someone to be on-call over the weekends in case there is an emergency. And when I do, my boss lets us take additional time off later in the week to make up for it. You guys are making crazy assumptions based off nothing.
You are just a rare exception. Don't push it on the rest of us
I'm just pointing out that not everyone thrives in a WFH environment and I think it shouldn't be a controversial take to admit that.
I liked working from home at first, but after so long it becomes harder and harder to leave your work at “work” when your workplace is also your home
That sounds like a "you" problem. I just hit the shutdown button on my laptop at 17:00 and close the lid, and boom I've left work and magically instantaneously transported to my home.
the flexibility to work from home on weekends
Work ... on .... weekends?
I think your problem is that you're a workaholic.
Its not a uniquely "me" problem, I've talked to plenty of other people who feel the same way as I do. I'm not talking about putting in extra time when I'm not supposed to be at work. I'm just talking about how it "feels" to constantly by in your workplace like that. I personally think it kinda sucks. I'm sure other people can deal with it fine, but I live in a small house where I don't really have a separate room like a basement office or something I can dedicate to being my workspace. I might feel differently about it if I had the space.
Also, I work in an industry that requires 24/7 coverage, we keep the Internet service running for hundreds of thousands of customers and businesses. I very very rarely put in more than 40 hours a week, but there are times where I need to be on call over the weekend in case there is an emergency. And when I do, I take time off later in the week to make up for it.
The only advantage to me being in the office is that I get free access to the gym.
AI article and website
And the richies grab the scientists by the mouth and go, "Shutfuckup! Shutfuckup!".
How about those of us who can’t due to the nature of our jobs?
You... uh... exist I guess? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
Well, if you get to work out there in nature then you're already winning! 🤪
than local govts wont get any revenue from commuting and businesses, and ceos wont be able to be control freaks and lord of thier subjects.