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[–] BoloMKXXVIII@piefed.social 83 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is not important that you can "turn it off", it is important that it is installed. Off doesn't mean not running in the background, sucking up your personal information.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

We need more Linux phones

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We need to just start beating the shit out of marketing people. Just any time you meet someone and find out they're involved in advertising, punch them in the mouth. Doesn't matter if they've personally done anything to you. They've gone too far.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

there's a quiz show on TV in my country. a few days ago they chose some marketing manager. they have dropped out at like the 3rd question, winning nothing. this is rare. Normally I'm cheering for players but I was gleeful for his loss.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, fuck that guy.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

Excommunicado

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

don't forget, any time you meet him

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Have already been since at least two years or so, although maybe on a slightly more limited scale.
The lower mid-range Motorola phone of my gf had a hard-to-disable active wallpaper app that displayed nice pictures, but had a prominent field leading directly to online ads when accidentally pressed (which happened a lot).
Also reactivated itself after each OS update.
Enshitification in progress...

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Xiaomi pushes their wallpaper "carousel" quite hard, I never activate it because it wants way to intrusive permissions. I wonder if it's in the same boat...

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Might well be.
I had a Xiaomi ~5 years ago, whose preinstalled file manager suddenly started displaying ads after a year or so.
We switched to Motorola because of this, as they then still were known for crap- and bloatware-free system.
Has apparently changed recently.
One of the reasons it was easy to convince my gf to get a Fairphone now.

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[–] semisimian@startrek.website 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Phone manufacturers know where you touch your screen the most often and put their shittiest apps in that spot so you accidentally engage. It's the only reason I open up Google's AI, because I did it by accident.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Phone manufacturers know where you touch your screen the most

Except Apple as it seems. They tend to routinely put essential interactive elements in the top left corner or so, farthest away from my right thumb.

On the other hand, Iphones don't have sneaky ads hidden in the system, so there's that...

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

We desperately need a phone OS the user can modify at will, by design and not by rooting, and on mainstream hardware.

I know, the argument goes that the only reason phones are so reasonably priced is the upside of upsell for manufacturers. But phones are not "reasonably priced," they are sold at a large profit and the upsell is just greed.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Ubuntu Touch exists and I have it installed on my backup Fairphone 5. In terms of the OS itself, it seems pretty solid and performs well. However it is very spartan in terms of both the interface itself as well as the apps available to interact with the OS in various ways.

It's a very small team working on it and as far as I can tell they aren't exactly drowning in funding. I bet if every person that would like to see another OS option donated a cup of coffee amount of money to them every month they would probably have what they want in the next 3-5 years.

I don't see that happening though. ~~I think most~~

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was really considering a Nothing phone as my next device, based mostly on how much I love my Nothing Ear Open headset.

This has completely robbed me of any desire to give them any more money.

Greedy fucks. Glad it happened before I spent any cash.

Yeah it appealed to me too but now it doesn't.

At this point I'm just going to get a flip phone and pretend it's the 00's.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Lock screen ads are coming to all smartphones. Because you know that, once they get one group to accept it, they're going to shove it onto everyone.

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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Oh, fuck off Nothing, you were to be my next phone! Now I need to find a different European brand which does high-end smartphones. Which means only HMD remains unless something changed in the last few months.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 8 points 4 days ago

Fair phone 6 running /e/OS is honestly amazing

Completely degoogled ROM, using MicroG to emulate google play services

European Fairphone would never do this, I think. Or just install custom ROM

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago

Not to my phone they aren't, get fucked.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 25 points 4 days ago (14 children)
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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Aaaaand there's the enshittification, just like I expected.

Remember kids - 99% of the time, if it's too good to be true....

Hell, even when it's not too good to be true and you already feel ripped off! The audacity of these mfs!

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago

"Nothing" experiments with lock screen ads

If you haven't heard of Nothing, I don't blame you. The Android phone company made waves back in 2022, largely on the back of its founder, OnePlus co-founder Carl Pei, but it only recently started making phones on par with flagship devices like the Google Pixel or Samsung Galaxy. Mostly, the brand has instead become known for its mid-range accessories and budget phones, which pack in a lot of power for their price points, but otherwise stand out through trendy and minimalistic designs. It's a smaller market, but a loyal one.

That's why it's a bit odd to see the company put both its minimalism and fandom at risk by putting ads on its lock screens, via a new "Lock Glimpse" feature.

Added in Nothing OS 4.0 late last week, when turned on, the feature will show you one of a rotating selection of wallpapers, which all feature linked content via text at the bottom of the image. For instance, a wallpaper showing a strawberry sundae might look spiffy, but in practicality, it's essentially an ad for a page with a strawberry ice cream recipe.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

That’s what happens when an advertising company sells phones

The Samsung A series phone we recently bought in India had lock screen ads. I was gobsmacked. It wasn't even easy to disable it.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Please stop copying Microsoft.

[–] nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There used to be Amazon versions of phones doing this like 10 years ago. They were a like 10-20% cheaper and with a lil Android knowledge you could permanently disable them over ADB and have a cheap usable phone

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

I'm glad they fixed the missing part in their minimalist experience.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you mean:

  1. article is incorrect and this is not true

  2. you don't want it to be true

Please make your selection.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Probably "never buying anything from a shitty company that does that".

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that. I can't think of anyone who would buy a phone that spams you with ads on the lock screen. Gross.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's the best part. You didn't buy it that way. They gave you a free upgrade.

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Finally! Heil Satan!!

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

Not to mine they ain't. Even if there was no device left without, because then I wouldn't have one.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Luigi Claus is coming for the executive officers of some smartphone manufacturers.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've seen Carl Pei described as the biggest edgelord in the smartphone industry. I think it's a very apt description.

It only makes ad spam by Nothing so much funnier.

Check out the forum post by Nothing about this spam initiative:

https://nothing.community/d/45348-nothing-os-40-beta-on-phone-3a-series-lock-glimpse-future-plans/

It's rather funny corporate world salad. Fanboy comments are great too! :) Here is one example:

For me, Nothing doesn’t really have a choice. When you’re a young brand, you absolutely have to bring in cash to keep the business running. Sometimes you have to make decisions you’d never have considered at the start, simply because over time, you realize it’s essential to evolve, to develop, and to keep growing. Even if customers aren’t always happy, we have to remember that some constraints are unavoidable to survive in this sector, especially when competing with the giants.

I think the message shared by Nothing is helpful; it will definitely allow them to get feedback from the community. All in all, Nothing is still a very small company in the smartphone world β€” even if, for us enthusiasts or users, they already play an important role. It takes courage to communicate transparently about your choices, and I hope this will help them move forward in the right direction.

To me this almost reads like a parody of a fanboy.

If the spam/bloatware is great ("enhances the user experience"), why do the claim it's only for low end devices? Surely they'd want to enhance the experience for all Nothing devices.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Amazon be Like "yo. We offer Discount to do that. Lets fire some people".

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