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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] eighty@lemmy.one 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 43 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] mFcGlNBcfr@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

[–] Peter1986C@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Otoh, his Akkoma instance should block poa.st. It is Noble of him to argue, but probably it won't accomplish much when he takes bait.

[–] mFcGlNBcfr@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

holy crap, I didn't realise he was responding to a poa.st user.

Definitely should've been defederated from poa.st by now...

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

[–] jurrasicjonn@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I was thinking as well. Why is it so hard for folks to separate what someone creates from the creator? If we found out the person who created, say, the bandaid, was a militant Nazi homophobe who advocated for marriage at the age of 6, should we feel guilty every time we need to cover a cut or scrape?

Personally, I don't know much at all about Linus, what he prefers for breakfast, whether he wears slippers in the house or goes barefoot, and so on. He could staunchly advocate that my country do away with its present form of government and declare him dictator for life for all I care.

I like Linux. I use Linux. It gets the job done. End of story.

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[–] ElectronSoup@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've seen people on other sites malding about how this proves linux and the GPL are communist. I suppose it's important to know just what those people are melting down about this week.

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[–] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

THE LINUX KERNEL HAS A FEDIVERSE INSTANCE??????? :D

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[–] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 37 points 2 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I respect him so much.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

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[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe because he's not "American" and comes from a country with regulations like the rest of the world, and people care when they vote to make things work.

And like most of the rest of the world, there are more than two political parties, and is not a drama show.

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He has American citizenship and lives in America, he's talking about America here. And I promise you that other countries, yes even those in the magical fantasy land of Europe, also have lots of political drama despite having more than two parties in the government (They tend to form alliances based on left/right and split into two blocks anyway).

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I know, im from Europe.
The drama is not compared to USA, we don't vote on celebrities.

In my country we even have a party for the animals and climate, so when USA still trying to vote for basic rights, we already ahead and vote for animal rights and more climate change.

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah no, this "America Bad and backwards 3rd world country while us Europeans are so enlightened" circlejerk isn't constructive either. The American political system is terrible but a lot of European countries, mine included, are copying their "celebrity drama show" attitude towards politics because of extreme American cultural influence. We shouldn't deny our own problems.

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[–] flibbertigibbet@feddit.de 30 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

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[–] xyon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

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[–] Viktorian@beehaw.org 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Linus is just such a treat. Love the guy.

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[–] Maerman@beehaw.org 29 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah. I love watching this man take a stance.

[–] RenaHersch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

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[–] lemme@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago

Did you know that linux kernel source code was leaked to the public? Go see for yourself how political it is!

/s

[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago

I’m also happy to discover social.kernel.org instance!!!

[–] thilo@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my experience, people who explicitly state to be apolitical or demant non politicality happen to have worldviews which only in the best of cases fall under the label controversial.

[–] weebs@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

On the flip side when I encounter this offline it's someone who's so disillusioned they can't even bother to figure out how to describe themselves politically (and I don't blame them). Not to invalidate what you're saying because I've noticed it as well, but to give some hope that some of the kids are alright

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[–] matir@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

I've never been made happier by one of his rants.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

[–] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

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[–] konki@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago

Based Linus!

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You should only support gun regulation if it applies to cops as well.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Agreed. They are not above the law, they simply enforce it. If you allow one group of people arbitrary monopoly on violence, then you have an imbalanced system.

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[–] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Holy fuck, I love that guy even more now. I didn't know that was possible.

[–] Jaximus@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Hahahahahaha this is great

[–] FuzzyDunlop@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 years ago (15 children)

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

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[–] Themightypooper@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

After being disappointed by Steve, Linus lifted my spirits.

[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

lol i read gun regulation as pro-gun.

glad to be proven wrong :)

[–] josm@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

This is one of the many reasons I look up to this man.

[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (14 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

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[–] mbp@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Linus is based as fuck as always. Level-headed and agreeable as always.

[–] xenago@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

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