I'm not sure I can add much value to the recommendations themselves, but I do believe the page needs to explain in relatively simply terms that that joining a particular instance isn't necessarily hindering access to any content, otherwise people will generally choose the most populous.
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the page should also not show the users/month per instance
I agree. I know I initially joined lemmy.ml (before moving to a smaller instance) because of both these reasons. I felt I would miss out on content and that I should join the biggest community.
I'll be submitting my instance to be considered to the recommended list. I've thrown a nice amount of resources at my lemmy instance and i'm pretty excited to see how it will handle the extra load that is expected!
the dude abides
Perfect, can you make a pull request?
Will have this done before the end of the day! I will be adding support for the French language as well to accommodate french speaking individuals as well!
Got this completed! Looks like the merge request was accepted and merged into the main already. Thanks for giving the heads up.
I think my server lemmy.world would qualify :-)
Great, can you make a pull request?
Ohh, never done that before. Should I create a fork, edit the file, and then submit as PR?
(yes)
Lemmy try that.
OK I submitted the PR.
I can't access your instance from my instance (feddit.de), although my instance is linked to yours. Does anyone have an idea what this could be?
The admin team needs to be prepared for a large influx of users, both in terms of hardware and moderation
Reddit has almost half a billion users, so until there is horizontal scaling I would argue no instance is ready.
One criterion i would add is economic viability, Lets look at beehaw, it has about 1000 monthly active users and according to opencollective got about 1000$ this month (for some reason the opencollective page of lemmy can't show this stat), that puts him at the ARPU (active revenue per user) of about 1$ a user which is similar to reddit that has ARPU of about $1.02 (and was much lower in 2021, about 0.5$).
There is horizontal scaling through federation. Even if lemmy.ml, beehaw.org and lemmy.one go down, users can still join instances like sh.itjust.works. The instance list on join-lemmy.org works as a load balancer.
If your goal were wider adoption, having a big "sign up" button (with the server name on/next to it) that links to a random "recommended" general instance could be best. Put a "sign up on a different instance" button next to it, and a list of instances below that.
Of course - that's IF it's your goal.
I think Mastodon does this, but just a static link to mastodon.social instead of randomly rotating it.
Edit: that's what they do on the app - but not joinmastodon.org
Instances have different topics and moderation, so it should be left to each person which one they prefer to join.
And it would be - no choice is being removed. It's more of a "I'm not sure what all this is... I just want to join lemmy" button. But I know that perhaps that's not completely in line with the core/original culture of the Fediverse. But a lot of people have incorrect assumptions on what federation is, if indeed they know anything about it at all. This leads to decision paralysis and confusion. People overthink which instance to join, at least among the open "general" instances.
And it would need to be explicitly opt-in for each server.... I don't think BeeHaw would be open to this for example.
I agree with your way of thinking. I believe a lot of people would be open to recreating an account on an instance that vibes with them more once they understand how it all works too.
I did that about 3 or 4 times already and only a couple of them were by accident!
If your goal were wider adoption, having a big "sign up" button (with the server name on/next to it) that links to a random "recommended" general instance could be best. Put a "sign up on a different instance" button next to it, and a list of instances below that.
I think this is an excellent idea
I was trying to edit my comment and accidentally deleted it! D'oh!
If your goal were wider adoption, having a big "sign up" button that links to a random "recommended" general instance could be best (with the url/name clearly on the button). Put a "sign up on a different instance" button next to it, and a list of instances below that.
Of course - that's IF it's your goal.
I think Mastodon does this, but just a static link to mastodon.social instead of randomly rotating it.
Edit: that's what they do on the app - but not joinmastodon.org
FYI you can restore deleted comments by clicking the delete icon again.
Oh hey thanks
Those are solid requirements to be listed on joinlemmy.org and I would also add another one about moderation policies prohibiting racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry, Islamophobia, etc. Otherwise, if a user joins an instance that the "official" page recommends and discovers it's racists / sexist / etc, they'll see it as a problem with #lemmy as a whole, as opposed to just one bad instance.
And as we've seen on Mastodon, if a Black user goes to a site where racism is tolerated and quickly encounters racist sh*t, they leave and tell their friends; ditto for trans, queer, Muslim, etc. users having bad initial experiences. Once that happens a bunch of times the reputation becomes hard to shake. Much better to steer people to sites where they're less likely to have a bad experience!
Good point
Our server on slrpnk.net can very likely take some more users, but I am pretty new to hosting Lemmy and it's currently only me that has some time to managing the server and approve applications.
So maybe better not to add it directly to the recommended instances list.
Controversial idea: I think we should remove the "users per month" number on the instance list. It's confusing to newbies and encourages people to join a "large" instance when the number doesn't really correlate with actual server capacity.
Edit: And don't display the ones with 1 or fewer users. They are obviously private single user ones. If someone wants to start a public one, they'll be able to come get 2 or 3 others to join up and they'll pop onto the list.
Ideally the recommended instances section wouldn't be static. It would put a different instance in prime position for each user that visits... a poor mans load balancing I guess.
The order of recommended instances is randomized, there is a different one at the top each time you reload.
That works.. hadn't realised it was randomized with only two recommended.
smaller general purpose instances such as sh.itjust.works
@nutomic certainly szmer.info, one of the largest instances for many years, and the only one in Polish
I've stood up aussie.zone primarily for Australians, but open to anyone. Same as poVoq, its just me at this stage.. but I've disabled community creation.