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[–] JohnWick@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please inbuilt on screen keyboard. For the love of god windows on screen keyboard is miles ahead of any Linux alternative and on Wayland the scene is even worse.

[–] chic_luke@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One thing I hate about the Linux desktop is the sheer lack of interest for supporting new hardware until it's too late.

Before you jump at me: I know it's not really anybody's fault. The contributors didn't switch to new hardware yet, and someone has to do the work.

But that does not excuse the passive aggressiveness. GNOME's stance on fractional scaling was, for years, "never happening - fractional pixels don't exist, so we do integer scaling only". A few years later, hidpi displays are becoming the standard and all premium laptops ship with them. Very few of them work fine at 200% scaling. One thing the Framework Laptop 13 reviews mention when testing it on Linux is that there is no optimal screen scaling available, just too small or too big - and that you can enable experimental support for fractional scaling, but it's a buggy mess and it's an option not exposed to the user for very good reason. Only now that it's too late and Linux is already buggy and annoying to use on modern laptops because of this we are beginning to see some interest in actually resolving the problem, including GNOME rushing to work on implementing support for it in GTK and Mutter, after years of bikeshedding. Somehow, things that are impossible and never happening suddenly become possible and happening when the writing that had been on the wall became true, and the hardware that a minority of users had been calling attention to for years is now common place and oups! That gives the Linux desktop some very bad exposure and first impressions.

Touch screens were another problem area. Initially the common stance was that nobody really uses these, convertible laptops suck anyway, etc. fast forward to now, more and more premium laptops offer touch screens, and stuff like 360 degrees hinges and convertibles that are actually decent are starting to surface. And, of course, everyone on Linux desktop wakes up and starts admitting that touch screen support is actually in a problematic state when it's already too late, and (prospective) owners of these devices have to pick between a very buggy experience that feels like Alpha state on Linux, and just using Windows.

It goes on. HDR support? Color correction support? FreeSync support being spotty and completely missing in GNOME Wayland?

I'm a heavy Linux user. I will nuke my dual boot when my next laptop ships so I'm going all-in after all these years. But I also own a 4k FreeSync monitor, a MX Master 3 mouse ane my next laptop (Framework Laptop 16") will require fractional scaling and VRR support to use comfortably. Having tried all these things side by side on my dual boot, I am somewhat jealous of how well Windows seems to handle these things compared to Linux. All this "nice stuff" has either taken a lot of time since my purchase to work nicely, or still doesn't work nicely at all. Ignoring contribution / manpower issues, this constant critical attitude towards new hardware and the unwillingness to try and properly support it is actively keeping us in the "Eternal 90% there" stage. We will not get out of it, because customer tech will keep evolving, and we will keep accepting new trends only when it's too late, and we're 7 years behind Microsoft in implementing support. It's not a secret that where Windows still obliterates Linux is niche use cases like HDR and colour accurate work, and support for new customer hardware, that usually lags 5-7 years behind on Linux.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

As a Gnome user, a expansion of that background apps think that properly replaces Appindicators!

[–] allforthebest 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

KDE with GNOME design or GNOME with KDE functionality.

Consistency between all elements, apps and other things.

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[–] humanplayer2@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Theming, controlled one central place.

This goes for both Gnome (GTK, Qt, Gnome Shell) and Sway (GTK, Qt, Sway, Rofi, Waybar...)

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Wayland support. I use Cinnamon

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[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actual proper touch support, which includes a decent built-in keyboard (looking at you KDE...).

I love 2-in-1's, but I do wish touch support would go all the way. It's like... 70-80% there, with Gnome having a good keyboard and KDE having the better touch support overall. But it just needs to go the final stretch to make it a good experience.

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[–] xengi@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Still waiting for a DE that's looks and acts like i3/sway but takes care of everything under the hood like monitor config, shortcuts for brightness, volume etc. Essentially everything Gnome or KDE does.

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[–] humanlyhuman@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago

Well to wayland work with nvidia

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

Dunno, KDE Plasma has it all. I would not mind some design improvements, but that is what Plasma 6 will bring. I just need to wait :)

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a new linux user, I would like KDE to fix their trackpad gestures because they suck. Please copy Windows or macOS. And I want fractional scaling in GNOME without everything looking blurry.

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Tabbed windows like Haiku has. I love that feature so much but I've only ever seen it on tiling WMs on Linux

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[–] Miyabi@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 points 2 years ago

Well this isn't a DE thing but I would like good ray tracing and the new frame gen support for my AMD GPU.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Just install it and not have to care about anything system related. Just keep out of my way and let me do what I need to do. Linux, Windows, MacOS, the operating system should not be an end, but a mean.

If you need to update, just do it and don't bother me. I plug something, just show it to me. Something is proprietary? I don't care, just want it to work...

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

Something is proprietary? I don't care, just want it to work...

Kinda hard when noone can make it work or even know how it works besides creators of that propietary program.

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[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why's there an AI image attached to this question?

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[–] Lilac_miku@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

a better on screen keyboard for gnome

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[–] fishinthecalculator@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Working Screensharing from first boot lmao

[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Better trackpad support on KDE on Wayland. I use multi-finger gestures all the time on my MacBook, and my System76 laptop supports them on Windows, but the only gesture that works on Linux is two-finger scrolling.

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[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In KDE, proper secrets handling.

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[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Configurable touchpad gestures on Plasma. And a non-nonsense gesture to open the overview effect (waiting for Plasma 6, already done :)

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Better support for gaming laptops with both igpu and dedicated gpus like in windows so that I can stop having to reboot when I want to go from portable mode to gaming mode

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[–] Xanxia@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I want to be able to see true integration between Apps and the WM. I saw a lot of good stuff with the way that Instant Messengers, Downloaders and IRC clients and various accounts could be made part of the normal interface. Now everything is web apps, or worse, Web Desktop Apps, which is also a big huge Electron apps that are more Isolated from each other than ever.

The only things apps share today are notifications, and I could definitely have less of those.

I'm just mostly waiting for Plasma 6 so I can use all the Wayland goodies it comes with.

Another thing I'm looking forward to is Wine-Wayland to be ready.

[–] superguy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The ability to easily resize scrollbars, KDE.

We had them right for so long.

[–] jmbreuer@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Working and well-integrated "run this on that rendering GPU", with unused GPUs being switched off (laptop use case).

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