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Discovered recently that Electric Wizard were kinda dicks back in the day. "At the time, we were pretty bad people. I got arrested for arson of a car, outside a police station. Tim [Bagshaw] went to nick a crucifix off a church roof so we could use it onstage..."

R. L. Burnside killed a man "possibly at a craps game."

Varg of ~~Mayhem~~ Burzum burned a couple churches and killed a bandmate.

I could list other examples, but would like to hear from other people and other music genres.

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 111 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So, I’m the moderator of !ClassicRock…how do you want me to start the list? Chronologically, quantity, severity??

[–] MortyMcFry@aussie.zone 64 points 2 years ago

Severity Top 5

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How about in order of "Most Pedophilic" to "Least Pedophilic". I'm aware that this list will be pretty top-heavy

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So Gary Glitter is gonna either start or end the list…

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah let's go by severity

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Passenger boat Chicago's Little Lady was hosting the 1 p.m. Chicago Architecture Foundation tour of the Chicago River.

all passengers were issued refunds.

The boat's deck was swabbed by its crew, and service was resumed for its scheduled 3 p.m. tour.

This boat crew is the most metal thing in this entire post.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What probably happened is that the boat absolutely stank, and they decided not to tell the people at 3pm what had transpired

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago
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[–] ChucklesMacLeroy@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Came in here to mention how much a of a dick Maynard was to a seamstress friend of mine. It was an hour or so before showtime and she had the audacity to replace the button on his vintage leather Cavaricci pants with one that wasn't an actual Cavaricci button. He treated her like a foolish peasant that should have been more prepared to deal with an elite. Seems kinda light considering the other posts, but anytime I can call him out for being a dick, I'mma do it.

Edit: a letter.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Yeah I am a bug fan of his music, but I can 100% see Maynard being a bit of a dickish prima donna. I guess they can't all be real ones 😞

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 2 years ago

Tool were my favourite band for many years. Actually not surprised Maynard is a dick, too much fame.

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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to love Avenged Sevenfold back in like 2005/2006. They used to fly confederate flags at their concerts, and even had custom guitars with the confederate flag panted on them. Back then I didn't understand the significance of that, but that's really fucked.

At least they have apologized for it and said they regret doing it. I believe people are capable of learning from their mistakes, but tbh, I haven't kept up with them so I'm not sure if they have truly become better people than they were back then.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never knew that about them. I casually enjoyed a few songs here and there when I heard them and thought they were good but not really my genre of choice. I really respect that they apologized and changed behavior. As somebody in my mid 30s and was therefore mid teens 20 years ago, I also was unaware of the hurt and hate involved with things I saw and said and did at the time. But you're right, it's important to be capable of learning and growing and changing behavior and apologizing for the damage done. We all make mistakes, and to pretend otherwise and deny ones own mistakes is a sign of immaturity and responsibility.

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[–] Terevos@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wasn't one of my favorite bands, but Iistened to them regularly.

Lead singer of As I Lay Dying hired someone to kill his wife. (Guy he hired was actually a cop, so he went to prison)

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I grew up on a lot of metal bands, including Iced Earth. Absolutely loved them, even saw them open for Megadeth as a kid.

Then Jon Schaffer went and proudly participated in the Jan 6 attack, so now it's kinda hard to listen to their music anymore.

Also hard to listen to Megadeth these days, too. Partly because they stopped being good after Risk, but also partly because Dave Mustaine turned into a born-again Christian nutjob.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was a big fan of eric Clapton but I learned later in that he’s racist so now his music leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I regret seeing him instead of Chris Cornell. I was sure clapton would go before Cornell :(((

[–] Boldizzle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Knowing he's a racist makes it interesting that he made a living off of playing music invented by black people. Also makes it even sweeter that Hendrix destroyed him on stage while jamming with Cream.

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[–] funbreaker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Back when I was a teenager I loved Lostprophets. I didnβ€˜t hear about Ian Watkins becoming one of the worst people in Wales until a few years after they disbanded.

Crystal Castles is also pain listening to nowadays with Alice and Ethan.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Forgot about Crystal Castles, that's definitely a strong contender for the top shitty place

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't say I was a big fan of them at the time, but LostProphets.

Ian Watkins is currently serving a 30 year sentence in prison for multiple child sexual offences - incredibly vile shit.

Apparently people had suspected he was a nonce long before he was arrested.

Many former fans went so far as to burn merch, trash CD's and pretty much disavow the band once the news came out. His former band mates dissolved the band and started No Devotion in its place.

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[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

The time Josh Homme kicked that lady in the face

Also this fucker (bassnectar)

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[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 25 points 2 years ago

deadmau5 used to be a massive internet edgelord for very much over a decade (think the targeted harassment of Krewella was particularly awful, even if their producer shared his lawyer) until he had some heated moments that forced him to realise he wasn't all there and change his ways. He's still very truthful about the world of EDM but he's not the edgelord he once was, and he's much better for it.

[–] Rocky60@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Learning that Rick Derringer and Billy Corgan were guests on The Alex Jones show was a big let down for me

[–] funbreaker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago

dammit, billy what the fuck

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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Iced Earth guitarist was one of the first ones in the door on January 6th. The band pretty much said they disagree with his actions,but not his intent.

Guitarist from Manowar in trouble for being a pedo.

Years ago, Zazz Blammymatazz had a song about getting head from a 14 year old.

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[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have always loved Rammstein and I still do, however this summer their vocalist was accused of sexual abuse of fans or something but the lawyers found no offense so nothing happened, though apparently they did have a manager for finding hot fans for the band's aftershow parties which is kinda nasty but not illegal

[–] Pea666@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago

It’s nothing rockstars haven’t done since there have been rockstars really. It used to be sort of acceptable but times have changed for the better.

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[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Justin Sane, frontman of punk rock's Anti-Flag, was recently accused of "predatory behavior, sexual assault, and statutory rape."

Allegedly he'd eyefuck girls from the stage during shows in a very "That's right, I'm a rockstar, lookin' at you" kind of way, and somehow get them invited backstage later.

His bandmates disbanded after the news broke. Bandmates say they weren't aware, that they stand with the victims, and they condemn his actions.

I saw Anti-Flag at a small venue years back and it makes me wonder if it happened to fellow concertgoers that night.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Andrew Wood, lead singer of Mother Love Bone, recorded a song ostensibly about how he'll always love heroin more than his long time girlfriend/fiancΓ© then ten days later he overdosed and died.

[–] Pea666@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago

Let’s not forget the fact that Varg is a right-wing bastard. Fuck him.

[–] nezrock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Karl Logan of Manowar. Currently doing 5 and a half for possessing CSAM. Hell of a guitarist, but a permanent stain on Manowar's image. At least Eric Adams is alright.

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[–] rclkrtrzckr@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Well, King Buzzo tells this shitty story about Mike Patton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSDSpi0pc48

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[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Missing a pretty big thing about Varg being a white supremacist, and of the spineless kind.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I used to love Brand New back in high school and college. When The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me came out, it pretty much captured my life for months. Turns out that the album's lyrics were a little more.. autobiographical than most people thought, and Jesse Lacy is a shitty person.

Also

Varg killed Euronymous because Euro was talking about making a snuff film of Varg because he (E) was jealous of how much success Varg was having with his own project and activities.

Keep in mind that Euronymous's response to his band's vocalists' suicide was to take a picture of his dead body and collect pieces of his skull to hand out to his friends as necklaces. Out of all the shitty things Varg Virkernes has done in his life, killing Euronymous just about makes up for it.

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[–] anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

More than a few of the musicians whose music I like have gotten in trouble for grooming, being pedos, and abusing minors. Two come to mind immediately because I found out recently: BoyInABand and Geoxor. There's probably more musicians like that whose news I haven't heard of.

edit: I don't follow this band but seems like lostprophets had an even worse situation.

Edit2: I read a bunch of the comments and a very prevalent trend is musicians getting in trouble for being pedos. Why so common?

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literally just being dave mustaine

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I like the Beatles, and there's the obvious clique joke of "John beats his wives, ya know?"

I like a grand total of one Megadeath song, "Hanger 18". That bad is very troublesome. I feel bad for enjoying it, but I don't pay for it, so I guess that's better? But it's nostalgic for me, and I like the words "Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense."

I'd have to go through each bands' wikipedia page, but I think some of the worst things are;

  • Disagreed on who wrote what, leading to members leaving or the band breaking up

  • Disagreed on who owns the name, leading to court battles and the band splitting in two

  • Important members leaving, and while the band is still fun to listen to both new and old songs, its not the same

And of course the dreaded sin of "Why does no one know who I am talking about, they need more fans." but that's not really a thing of their own.

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[–] DrugsMcChrist@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Oooof.

Arcade Fire: Win Butler is a sex pest.

Brand New: Jessie is a groomer of underage girls.

Marilyn Manson: his videos from 2009- pretty much lay it out in the open, but he's the fucking worst physical and emotional abuser of women. Just a shit human being.

I have stopped purchasing these artists merch and they have all been removed from my Spotify. Their records now live in my basement. When I must listen, I listen to my personal rips, alone.

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[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Vince Neil killing Razzle. Then the band casually acting like Mick never existed.

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[–] freebread@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (11 children)

So I'm a huge fan of The Smiths...

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