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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Peru is a tinderbox, and impunity for abuses against demonstrators could spur another round of anti-government protests and provoke the police and military to respond violently yet again.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Lebanese government scrambles to avoid being dragged into war

Lebanon’s caretaker prime minister says the country’s politically paralyzed government has been scrambling to ease tensions along its southern border with Israel and avoid dragging the tiny country into a new war.

Najib Mikati has spoken by phone with top U.S. officials and heads of state and top diplomats from the United Kingdom, France, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, and Italy.

“Lebanon is in the eye of the storm, and the region as a whole is in a difficult situation,” Mikati was quoted as saying in a statement from his office. The Lebanese government remains critical of Israel, but fears a new war could further devastate its battered economy and put the lives of its approximately 6.5 million people at risk.

There are concerns that the Iran-backed Hezbollah group and its powerful armed forces will ignore concerns from the Lebanese government and escalate once Israel launches a ground invasion.

Hezbollah and Israel have clashed along the border across several towns, but Hezbollah has not yet announced that it is joining the war.

https://apnews.com/live/israel-hamas-war-live-updates#0000018b-3848-d549-a7eb-7ddc428a0000

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

ATGM attack targeting an IDF military base on the Lebanese borders

2nd time today

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israeli hospitals are ordered to stockpile all necessary food, aid, and supplies, in case of an emergency, that should enable normal operation for four months.

While some of the rhetoric is changing, the logistics work for a longer conflict is still ongoing.

[–] CommieElon@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Is it true that the US said Israel should stop the blockade of food, water, and fuel? I swore I saw a source for that. I wonder if there’s a point that the US will abandon Israel in fears of losing the rest of the Arab world.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Hezbollah to issue a statement shortly.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Jordanians set the Israeli embassy on fire in Amman

https://streamable.com/kjjfe7

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

According to some reports, the death toll from the hospital flight in the Gaza Strip is in the hundreds.

Civilian death toll of the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza that was bombed by an Israeli airstrike has surpassed 500

The moment of arrival at the Christian hospital in Gaza

The strike on the Baptist hospital in Gaza killed at least more than 500 people and injured more than 1,200. The numbers are not final. This is what the local Ministry of Health has been able to calculate so far.

One of the most heinous war crimes in recent years.

The Israel Defense Forces deny involvement in the hospital explosion.

The results of the IDF's preliminary investigation indicate that a rocket was launched unsuccessfully from the Gaza Strip and landed on a hospital building.

President Abbas declared three days of mourning for the victims of Israeli airstrikes on Al-Ahly Hospital in the Gaza Strip and “for all Palestinian martyrs”.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/16/venezuela-us-sanctions-deal/

The sanctions relief is to be announced after Maduro’s government and Venezuela’s U.S.-backed opposition sign an agreement to include commitments by the socialist government to allow a freer vote in 2024, the people said. They’re expected to do that during a meeting in Barbados on Tuesday with U.S. officials in attendance.

US is hedging. They want more access to this oil just in case the middle east goes badly.

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[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Marx was a Palestinian Jew, but the mainstream media doesn't want you to know it

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

According to Al-Jazeera and Palestinian medias, between 300-800 patients were killed and hundreds more were injured following the Air strikes

The institution was founded by the 🏴 Church of England’s Church Mission Society and was later run as a medical mission by the 🇺🇸 Southern Baptist Conference from 1954 to 1982. It then returned to the Anglican Church.

https://streamable.com/2oioqf

Graphic images. CW: Death

Graphic images. CW: Death

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Is there recent - as in today-ish - news about Ayman Mohyeldin, Mehdi Hasan, and Ali Velshi?

Google is shit because it has been allowing SEO manipulation so it's copy and pasta city of this article that's ~3 days old and has been re-re-re-re-posted at Hexbear.

Inside MSNBC's Middle East conflict | Semafor

They were booted from their anchor chairs. But Mohyeldin and Velshi still showed up here or there. I, personally, haven't seen them in the last ~24 hours. I haven't seen Hasan at all. I think he has a Sunday evening show. So one thing I'd like to know is if he was the host of his own show last night or not.

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Edit

I finally found something. And it's dated 1 hour ago.

The Fight Over MSNBC's Cave-in to Islamophobia | The Nation

One complexity of the story is that the three employees continued to appear on MSNBC as reporters and analysts even as they were sidelined as hosts. [...] By Sunday morning Ali Velshi was back as host.

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