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[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 273 points 2 years ago (5 children)

My parents once asked me why I didn't have enough savings to buy a house yet.

I almost lost my shit.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 122 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The only people my age that I know who own their own house are also drug dealers.

Guess I should sell drugs if I want a house.

[–] A_Toasty_Strudel@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I had a legitimate talk about doing this with my girlfriend. As much as I hate how sketchy it is, it still just seems sooo tempting.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But is it worse than tricking other people to work 40+ hours a week doing whatever you say and giving you most of the value they create? Because that’s the other option.

Plus if you buy a bunch of houses you can get them to give back most of the money you pay them.

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[–] iarigby@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago

ask them why didn’t they have savings to “buy a private yacht yet” at your age, because I would guess it’s roughly similar in the proportion of pay/cost

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 229 points 2 years ago (4 children)

To keep your sanity you just have to lower your expectations.

I, for example, am really stoked for the burrito I ordered. Fuck, it’s good to be alive.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm stoked about having learned how to repair PCs in my last 6 hour hyperfixation, and then actually fixing two PCs.

[–] Lemmygizer@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh man, that's the good shit right there! Ride that dopamine wave.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am! I am also sleep deprived lmaooo.

First time in years though I felt genuinely content with my life and it's over something as insignificant as this!

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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My life goal was to live in a house in the woods, support myself on 30 hours of work per week at the most, have 2 cats and a wood stove.

I mean the house is small (60 square meters of living space), I rent it, I have to use the wood stove for heating cause I can't afford gas, and my retirement plan is to die in the climate wars, but hey, I made it.

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[–] zib@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You ever had a deep fried burrito? That shit is life changing and good enough reason for me to keep going.

[–] Bumblebb@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Something called a chimichanga in my neck of the woods. You can get one smothered or dry. You can even get one stuffed with fruit and covered with sweet and spicy sauces

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[–] omalaul@lemm.ee 186 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The century of find out with almost no active participation in the previous century of fuck around.

A lot of "climate collapse global late stage capitalism and food is more and more plastic" stick with very little "convenience products are kinda nifty" carrot

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 years ago (19 children)

It's kind of bittersweet being a very tail-end Gen X person. On the happy side, I got to do my childhood and teen years in the "fuck about" era, but on the unhappy side my entire adulthood has been in the "find out" era, and I get to remember what it was like briefly living in a world that wasn't entirely going to shit.

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[–] Naatan@lemdro.id 102 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I really wish my generation was a bit more optimistic. Yeah shit sucks, don't get me wrong. But have you guys seen all of history? This is par for the course. Yeah the challenges are different but every generation had their challenges. And yeah baby boomers definitely had it better than us, but that doesn't mean there's nothing but bad stuff to come. You have to take life with the good and the bad and make the most of it.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The bad is starting to look more and more like an impending global societal collapse with every passing day though

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 73 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Yeah I don't know about "par for the course"

What other generation had the threat of scientifically proven ecological collapse looming over them?

[–] ozebb@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

scientifically proven ecological collapse

This is a pretty specific thing, but the general "we're all doomed" vibe is definitely not unique to today. Boomers and older had the threat of nuclear annihilation looming over them, and before that... well, disease and famine and death and destruction due to war have historically been the norm.

Imagine how you'd feel living in the Americas in the 16th or 17th centuries and either watching the destruction wrought by European settlers firsthand or, maybe worse, watching your peers die en masse of the diseases introduced by those settlers. Imagine living in Eurasia in the 13th century and watching the Mongol army sweep through.

None of this is to say that today's challenges aren't real and serious. Just that we're not the first to face such challenges.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, they literally thought WW1 and WW2 would start the apocalypse.

Nuclear armageddon was a daily fear of the Cold War, and almost happened several times.

The difference now is that we know all we need to do to ruin Earth for human life is to do nothing.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is an interesting perspective, because in previous generations most of the long term fears were settled by simply doing nothing. They held their breath and it worked out.

The key difference is that the current generations are acutely aware that if we do nothing and just "stay calm and carry on", we're totally fucked. Inaction isn't going to save us this time. We can't put our heads in the sand and just sing ourselves to sleep then expect a good outcome when we resurface.

I think that's a key differentiator. Previous generations were fearful of something happening. Current generations are fearful of nothing happening, because if nothing happens then the world will become uninhabitable by humans.

Yet, the majority of the decision-makers in our society are silent generation/boomers that drove to success by inaction and they're largely doing nothing. We see this and understandably know how fucked we are.

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[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Most generations don't need to deal with an impending threat to the whole planet. Nuclear apocalypse, sure, but at least there was no pretending that it wasn't a problem.

This is ignoring all of the other ways in which we're fucked.

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[–] Rokk@feddit.uk 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the Internet is partially to blame.

The negative stuff happening in the world seems to spread so much faster and get so much more publicity that it's easy to end up in a constant negative spiral

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 71 points 2 years ago (6 children)

When Fallout Boy did the cover of We Didn't Start the Fire, all hope was lost.

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Ukraine-Russia & Israel-Palestine wars, and the likelyhood of China going after Taiwan before 2027, and the Koreas continually being a powder keg influenced by all of this. Between all that and me being 23 years old I sincerely think I might witness World War 3, it's terrifying, yet it feels inevitable with our era of false 1st world peace built on a house of cards.

That's not even mentioning the Republican Project 2025, as a trans person I might have to fight for my life.

[–] Mago@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What do you mean by house of cards? Seems to me like the current political order is the most stability the world has ever seen and is only threatened by an axis of fascist countries that deliberatly wants to plunge the world into war and chaos.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's been stable based on temporary peace and Mutually Assured Destruction (not just from nukes). For example China-Taiwan are still in a civil war that never officially ended, and China has always wanted to reabsorb Taiwan and Taiwan has always been opposed to. The Koreas are actively still in a cease fire for a war that also never concluded. And the middle east has always been churning with armed conflicts.

The western 1st world countries managed to extract enough wealth to stay far and away from these kinds of conflicts, but they are still heavily dependent on these countries and we'll all feel the impacts if things get worse.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 2 years ago (5 children)

My GenX existential horror was learning in my thirties that all the western American Exceptionalism ideology I was indoctrinated in as a kid was just a way of keeping us from getting proactive for sake of the future generations, and my parents and teachers and ministers knew this and actively lied to me anyway.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago

I also think that a lot of bad things about the US that a blind eye was turned to because they seemed to be getting better have since become relevant again because they've started getting worse

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

"This is the worst things have ever been!"

"You mean this is the worst things have ever been ... so far!"

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Not just those under 40. I do feel bad I sorta got a brief taste of "good times" and worry eventually younger folks will think the post 2000's are normal.

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm juuuust old enough to have a firm memory of when things that were laughably petty were the biggest problems in the world. You mean to tell me the PRESIDENT got a BLOWJOB?!

All the real issues that sowed the seeds for our intractably broken future were sidelined and mostly ignored. Desert Storm, woowoo go world police. LA Riots, oh you crazy minorities and your intolerance for extrajudicial murder. Climate change, what's that?

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well Obama did wear that tan suit

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[–] TheChurn@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Desert Storm was the good one. Sadam invaded Kuwait, a large international coalition ended the occupation. Today's analogue would be NATO entering Ukraine, kicking the Russians out, and showing that wars of aggression are unacceptable.

Iraq in '03 was the problematic one. Falsified casus belli, war crimes galore.

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[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every day I wake up exhausted trying to look for a silver lining but more often not finding it until sleep.

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Over 40? For me is even worst! You younglings still have time to do something. I have no house, no savings, no retirement plan and no time to do all that! I'm the most fucked! Do you think I expect good things?

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[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)

and yet we essentially live in the best of times.

Sad we can't find a political way for everyone to have enough of what we have.

primal needs to hoard are strong in humans.

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[–] gaybear@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know, my premium notebook is arriving tomorrow, that's pretty exciting.

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[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Bought my house right before the new housing crisis. I'm locked in so cheaply that I may not ever move.

Gonna ride my residual income as far as I can take it. I'm done breaking my body for a world that doesn't care.

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