Some of these products already exist. They are expensive. If you go back and look at the long-lasting appliances of the past, they were also expensive.
One example is Speed Queen washers/dryers. Also Bosch dishwashers.
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Many of these become enshittified. Bosh is an example. My sister kitted out her kitchen with many Bosch appliances when she renovated, like 10 years ago. All have had issues.
The fridge has peeling faux chrome handles, the microwave button/wheel/control had to be replaced, the washer had the drum bearing fail, and the drum housing is sealed, so you have to replace the whole drum assembly, which costs as much as an entire budget washer...
The problem is that you think that would make the 'just' products cheaper. The reality is that the data and advertising subsidize the costs of the existing options and make them cheaper then what 'just' could sell for.
Case in point: Smeg already does this, and all their products are considered upmarket. They're just really solid normal appliances.
That isn’t true anymore nowadays. You pay the full un-subsidized price AND get your data sold and ads displayed
Only if there's a lack of competition in that market. For most devices, you're just flat out wrong.
Damn that $2_000 fridge must be super awesome for it to have no competition. That explains the ads on it.
No, you’re wrong. You pay more and still get shafted. I’m not saying that all products are like that, but the number of products that still show you ads and gobble your data while also becoming prohibitively expensive is ever increasing.
We’re in that nice transition phase where you can spend $200 or $3000 on a TV but your privacy is gone either way.
Noone said it would be cheaper
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I've been thinking about this for a while now, how I just want a basic bitch electric car. No centre console, no futuristic screens, no sensors, no cameras. Give me a normal fucking car with dials, a speedo, some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears and no driver assist. Sell it to me for cheap and let me drive my car. That's all I want.
I haven't seen speedometer shortened to speedo before. I was wondering why you wanted to get a speedo (like swimwear) along with the rest of your normal car accessories.
Little from column A, little from column B
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The Sims did it first, except the brand was called "Justa". Justa dishwasher. Justa fridge.
Ahead of their time.
And I will sell it in a store called "in stock" because we have these things called "computers" that can reorder a product once one sells so the shelves aren't empty. Because American companies have never heard of that concept.
It would be more feasible to de-fang modern appliances.
That’s a legit great idea. Create a new firmware for smart TVs too.
People always call me crazy but I buy commercial displays. You can get them cheaper if you do it the right way. So speakers, no tuner, no smart functions, usually only 1 or 2 inputs, and basically no bells or whistles.
But that's how I like it, so I don't care if it makes me 🤣😧🤣😧
Call me crazier that's a "monitor".
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He'll be out of business in a years time!
Seriously a great idea though. I'd buy all their stuff.
If you want this today, SpeedQueen has decent models that last forever and are very simple.
The reason is that they will be so durable that you buy one and it'll be an heirloom for multiple generations.
Since it would make small quantities (at least at the start) and with better materials, I bet it would be also more expensive so maybe it evens out.
I would also buy it, I'm tired of household items that randomly break and the manufacturer doesn't care.
Deshittification
Probably better than my idea of just starting to wash my clothes in a bucket
This often actually exists still, but those companies dont do big marketing and their products will cost 3x that of a "normal" one.
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There’s a huge demand from consumers for that. Just not from investors.
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There is a nonprofit org called Open Source Ecology that is aiming to create what they call the "Global Village Construction Set", a collection of basic industrial machines required for modern living, designed in a way where everything can be built DIY by a single community (Including modular generators). I imagine that they have a plans for home appliances, I think as of now they're still working on construction equipment.
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That's like Ali G saying he invented the PlayStation 2 because he thought about it when the playstation came out.
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Id buy their stuff, some of it at least
I would buy just enough.
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