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    I don't quite understand the criticism. It's not gonna be top of the line, but it's more than enough to replace my dying laptop from 2015 that I pretty much only ever use like a desktop anyway. And I can save myself the time and effort of picking parts, building, and dealing with shit not working as expected.

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    [–] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 87 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    I don't need it but I want it. The GabeCube has basically the best of both worlds, the ease of use of consoles and the multi purpose usage of a PC. That's also why it can't be priced like a console I'm afraid. It has to be sold at least at cost (production+development) and can't be subsidized by game sales like a PS or Xbox. A console without games is pretty much useless, the Steam Machine without games is still a damn fine PC.

    [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If it was sold at a loss, businesses would scrape the whole supply and pave them for windows desktops.

    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

    That just wouldn't happen unless the steam machine costs less than $300. That's usually the top a corporation is willing to pay for bulk mini nucs, which is all that they want for clerk desks. Information workers get laptops with dell or HP embossed in the lid. Workstations for top design or video editing require way more juice than the Steam Machine can deliver, those are bought on order to professional boutiques, or they just buy Apple. Also, no administrator will sit on the steam shop page to buy one at a time, they like their bulk purchases and Valve can simple refuse anyone buying hundreds of machines. Then, corporations don't just want the PC, they want tech support, advanced guarantee schemes, etc. This usually come with a subscription per seat. All things Valve simply won't provide. It won't even register as an option for businesses.

    This is an unfounded concern.

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    [–] yakko@feddit.uk 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I don't think I need it, but I'm super glad it's going to exist.

    If it came with a native DVD reader and my PS4 suddenly died, I'd have some choices to make, however.

    [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    I'm 1000% certain you could attach a Blu-Ray drive via USB without internet telemetry, unlike Sony's policies ;)

    Edit: fixed rogue "care of" character, will contact GrapheneOS team lol

    [–] yakko@feddit.uk 22 points 2 days ago

    The idea did occur to me a minute after I'd commented. After my PS4 gives up, I'll have choices to make.

    [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    1000β„…

    Surely you mean 1000‰ (1000 per mille), not care of. How did you type that, anyway?!

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    [–] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

    It's a feature

    The best part of Linux is shitty games don't work on it.

    [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    I am honestly curious how do Sony and Microsoft react internally to Valve deciding to get their part of cake. Nintendo shouldn't care, their cake is a separate cupcake at the top anyway, but Sony and Microsoft are directly in the line of fire.

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Don't be surprised when one or both of them starts doing some shady shit to sabotage things if Valve starts eating a larger market share.

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    [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    It makes no sense to me not allowing anticheat on unmotivated steamOS..

    I mean, valve could even build something in, like secure mode, where you have a secure little linux root system for each anticheat game together with a online hash to check against this hole separated file system

    Like when you start the game, steamOS boots in this separate root system

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    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

    Sounds like an Activision-Blizzard problem to me.

    [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

    If they want to make their game incompatible with the best gaming systems I will simply not play it.

    [–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

    Its hard to even phrase this in a way that doesnt show that the game is clearly the problem and not linux

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I see this as an absolute win.

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    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It can install windows. Just dualboot COD

    [–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    How does one dual boot Call Of Duty?

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Replace systemd with COD on wine.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init

    Do these for whatever windows equivalent is.
    Hope this helps. πŸ‘

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

    Oh no! It only plays the CoD games that were good.

    IMO: let windows have that, as these games do some SCP-level containment for everyone sane in this hobby.

    [–] SendMeYourInk@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If someone is looking for an all-in-one device, it is a valid criticism to point out.

    As it stands now SteamOS can't play the big flavour of the week multiplayer games. If that really matters to you and you don't have somewhere else to play them, a steam machine isn't for you.

    I dual boot for this reason but default to Linux for everything that works there.

    [–] Dojan@pawb.social 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Sounds like the problem is with the game and its developers. There are still cheaters in games with kernel level anticheat. It's not a substitute for having moderation functions, staff, and reporting functionality. And at that point, you might as well go with something that isn't invasive rootkit spyware to safeguard your game.

    [–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Server-side anti-cheat is the best solution, and doesn't require any malware on the user's machine. It's harder though, and might need beefier servers, so...

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