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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

Same deal with lawyers that go into public interest. It pays super low, compared to corporate and similar that has money to throw at their employees.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

A lot of FOSS projects are freemium based which seems viable for larger more complex projects.

In these projects it's common to see the developer get paid for adding features on top of the core version, for a SaaS version, for custom development, or for offering support.

Other projects with a lot of community interest - and a good "community manager" style organizer can attract contributors in the form of pulls, bug testing and reports, and widespread use which generates valuable marketing. These projects only exist because of the labor of love from the whole community.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Open source should be funded by the tax-payers, or all code should be forcibly open-source (something like AGPL)

Any other models feels like they would create perverse incentives

Also recurring donations feels like a better way than one-time tips

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 10 points 10 hours ago

Saudi Arabia.

All of them? Maybe an international consortium that pays devs in their home currency.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure many people could point to hundreds of dangers around open-source programs relying on government funding. Yet, I can't argue that it seems to be a necessity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I mean, look what happened with TCP/IP.

A fucking disaster for humanity on a global scale

[–] rockstar1215@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It’s funny how common this mindset is in the self-hosting community: “If I’m running it on my own hardware, the software should basically be free… maybe I’ll toss a tiny ‘tip’ if I feel generous.”

The logic seems to be that since there’s no ongoing server cost, the developer’s time, skill, and effort must somehow be worth nothing and that we should magically fund the entire project through some hypothetical cloud version that they themselves will never use.

It’s like showing up to a brewery with your own growler and expecting the beer to be free because you didn’t use their glass.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

To be fair - this mindset is hardly exclusive to self-hosters. The dotcom era itself kicked off because it was easier to get advertisers to pay for server costs than users.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. If the software is free, then it's free. It's up to the authors how they want to license it.

Personally, I write code and publish it in the hopes that it will help someone. If someone comes in and says "there's this bug, fix it!" I will only do so if it will benefit me, or if I feel like it.

[–] rockstar1215@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The article and discussion here is about open source software which is not free software. Thats where the problem lies it is assumed that open source software has be free.

Freedom in software does not mean free software.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It’s up to the authors how they want to license it.

Plus or minus some amount of piracy, sure

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago

Careful bro you're making it sound like exploitation has been normalized in the name of 'free software', but actually... Oh wait.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I've been using CachyOS and impressed by the array of available software, and it was only in the back of my mind, the thought; "Wow, so much of this is so refined and polished. I wonder who has motive to maintain it?"

Joke's on me, the motive is hardly there - and it's a shitty time for it with Windows announcing that 10 is the last version and that there are no plans for a new one.

I'm glad Valve has a profit motive towards open source right now, but especially in a world where fewer people can donate at random, I really hoped that the model wasn't specifically built to rely just on tip jars.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

No. They should change it to CIA.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So are closed source developers.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] smeg 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For example, the developer of asus-linux.org who made the kernel contributions for Asus ROG laptops and the accompanying ROG Control Center recently walked away, due to exhaustion.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

I couldn't find anything about this on the Asus Linux blog, am I just dumb and looking in the wrong place? I use Asus-linux and didn't know about this :(

[–] modus@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I don't understand much about the finances of the FOSS world, but do companies like FUTO help at all? I don't even know how FUTO makes money, to be honest.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

They're not a company, FUTO is one rich guy.

[–] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

FUTO is both a company (LLC, to be specific) and a rich guy.

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 6 points 19 hours ago

And not to forget: FUTO is evil.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

That was my intuition after looking around their site

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I know how futa makes money

[–] simonlm@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I read this blog post yesterday and it was insightful.

Seems like we could solve multiple problems in one go here…

[–] KaKi87@jlai.lu 4 points 17 hours ago

The consequences of what that article proposes is we're gonna be back to this period of history where companies were all using proprietary technology that self-taught devs won't ever learn and that students will only learn if they can afford a school that can use it, in addition to poor developer experience because of maintainer agenda being driven by money rather than community requests.

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 5 points 19 hours ago

I liked the article. It sung to my heart. I've been in this world for a while. Lived through the failure and hyperacalars just taking without giving back.

I don't know what to think. But I'm not happy with where we are and it's nice to hear someone else talking about it.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm all for ethical licensing, and defensive licensing, but we'll likely end up with an unmanageable soup of various licenses that everyone is nervous about misinterpreting. We lose efficacy and everyone will just default back to the same handful of licenses we're currently using.

I think unless it was a small number of crystal clear alternative licenses with broadly agreeable terms, we'd get chaos, followed by complacency.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

More likely, people's work will get thrown into the bin because its poorly licensed.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Well that's kind of what I'm getting at. How many times does that happen before everybody just goes back to using GPL, MIT, etc...

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 13 hours ago

Fuuuuck that!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

All of the large scale projects are funded and maintained by enterprises

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

A lot of larger foss projects do open up a foundation or another legal entity. Mostly due to regulations or dealing with donations. But it's hard to call them enterprises