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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 43 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So, they've been doctored and/or redacted to the point of not saying anything. There's no way this sudden, absurd 180 isn't a direct result of some degree of ratfucking.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

There's a reason he's suddenly trying to flood the system with bullshit charges related to Epstein against prominent Democrats...

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 89 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Why do I feel like something is ultimately wrong here?

I know one theory is that Mike Johnson was hoping that the bill would get tied up and die in the Senate and that backfired spectacularly, but this still just feels off.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 80 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Because you're not stupid.

Months and months of blocking, covering, denying, and flat out lying. Then all of the sudden, 180 degree flip and release.

You're not crazy, none of us are. This is very unusual and suspicious. Keep your eyes peeled.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

I'm crazy, but not the kind of crazy to not see this!

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Well they can't release anything that is currently under investigation or classified, and trump can classify things with his mind, so he claims.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

"currently under investigation" is the key phrase here. There's a reason why he's suddenly "asking" for investigations against Democrats regarding Epstein. It'll give him the excuse he needs to redact whatever he wants and claim it involves a current "investigation".

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Or they release and the call a misstrial. Instant innocence for everyone!

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 31 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

They did a ctrl+h to replace "Donald Trump" with "Bill Clinton", "Barack Hussein Obama" or "insert Democrat here" and think we're too stupid to notice.

I jest, but whatever is released will conveniently have references to Trump or his donors missing. They will release just enough to claim that there is nothing else to show.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's always evidence of tampering. It may take some time but once found it will come right back to him. This is just all he has left now to buy more time. What he'll do while that clock is running out is the next question. We've seen part of it, the authoritative shift.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And this is a president whose methods of tampering are as complicated as just scribbling over a map in sharpie.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

An act that was clearly illegal given that he misrepresented emergency information, and I expect the exact same punishment will be recieved for THIS tampering of things.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

It'd be hard to make that charge stick, since NOAA didn't actually publish it as a real forecast.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

Don’t worry, America isn’t at risk of holding powerful people accountable.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 18 hours ago

I'm sure the odds are good mamdani will have done something before he was born

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago

~~My taxes~~the Epstein files are ~~under audit~~part of an ongoing investigation and can’t be released.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 17 hours ago

It becomes law with or without him

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 31 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Which means he expects to get away with whatever they say he did

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Let’s be real. He has no idea what’s in them. He just knows he has strong ties to Epstein and WHATEVER is in there it’s probably not good but Trump doesn’t read. It has been reported on that briefing reports he received have to be 1 page or he will throw them out or straight up not read them.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Which means it's going to be bullshit, doctored files, or the same things we already have.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

He wouldn't have reversed his opposition unless there was some form of mailicious compliance.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The full files have been seen by lots of people on both sides of the aisle and third parties. It isn't like they've actually been kept under lock until now. If anything is tampered with, it would be easy to prove. As far as any repercussions for lying, I've got nothing

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Here's their plan:

  1. Claim open investigations to not release certain files
  2. Stall for the holidays
  3. When someone calls yet another referendum or forces testimony in Congress again...stall
  4. Someone in Congress finally admits the files released are not complete because they have seen the the unredacted versions
  5. Stall again

They will ratchet up all the bullshit pain they are inflicting on Americans through ICE as much as they possibly can in this time, and try and force Representatives to back off any further action until they relent.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Jeffery Epstein, who was charged by the Trump Justice Department in 2019 (Not the Democrats!), was a lifelong Democrat, donated Thousands of Dollars to Democrat Politicians, and was deeply associated with many well-known Democrat figures, such as Bill Clinton (who traveled on his plane 26 times), Larry Summers (who just resigned from many Boards, including Harvard), Sleazebag Political Activist Reid Hoffman, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (who asked Epstein to donate to his Campaign AFTER Epstein was charged), Democrat Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, and many more. Perhaps the truth about these Democrats, and their associations with Jeffrey Epstein, will soon be revealed, because I HAVE JUST SIGNED THE BILL TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES! As everyone knows, I asked Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, and Senate Majority Leader John Thune, to pass this Bill in the House and Senate, respectively. Because of this request, the votes were almost unanimous in favor of passage. At my direction, the Department of Justice has already turned over close to fifty thousand pages of documents to Congress. Do not forget — The Biden Administration did not turn over a SINGLE file or page related to Democrat Epstein, nor did they ever even speak about him. Democrats have used the “Epstein” issue, which affects them far more than the Republican Party, in order to try and distract from our AMAZING Victories, including THE GREAT BIG BEAUTIFUL TAX CUT BILL, Strong Borders, No Men in Women’s Sports or Transgender for Everyone, ending DEI, stopping Biden’s Record Setting Inflation, lowering Prices, Biggest Tax and Regulation Cuts in History, ending EIGHT Wars, rebuilding our Military, knocking out Iran’s Nuclear capability, getting Trillions of Dollars INVESTED in the U.S.A., creating the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World, and even delivering a HUGE DEFEAT to the Democrats on the recent Shutdown Disaster. For years our Great Nation has had to endure RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, UKRAINE, UKRAINE, IMPEACHMENT HOAX #1, IMPEACHMENT HOAX #2, and many other Democrat created Witch Hunts and Scams, all of which have been so terrible and divisive for our Country, and have been done to confuse, deflect, and distract from the GREAT JOB that Republicans, and the Trump Administration, are doing. This latest Hoax will backfire on the Democrats just as all of the rest have! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

-@RealDonaldTrump

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

BIG SALE! EVERYTHING MUST GO!

[–] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm sorry, but is this for real? I don't want to go look at his cancerous site.

Edit: holy shit, that's real, and I didn't have to go on his trash site.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

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