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However, EU regulation introduced in June 2025 requires that all smartphones sold on the European market receive software updates for a long time. The directive does not specify a minimum price for this rule to take effect. The EU explicitly states that software updates must be available for five years after a device is no longer sold.

Motorola’s lawyers have apparently studied that legal text closely, and now the company appears to be ready to confront the EU Commission. Their interpretation is that the EU does not actually require updates to be provided at all, but only requires that if updates are offered, they must be free of charge. However, we are not aware of any case in which a smartphone manufacturer has ever charged money for security patches.

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[–] outbloodyrageous@mander.xyz 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen the speculation that Motorola is one of the OEM under consideration by Graphene OS team for future device support. Motorola's history of policies regarding security updates doesn't really support that speculation tbf

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if it's them, but then again most OEMs have issues with updates so who knows. If we were just talking about hostility to custom OSes, the choices have gotten pretty slim too (basically Sony, OnePlus, and Nothing, with some smaller OEMs and one-off unlockable devices from others).

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 25 points 12 hours ago

If the EU fumbles this…

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I ain't no apple fan, but my old iPhone 8—which is now my sister's work phone since one year ago—just received a security patch a couple months ago, eight years after it was bought. And yes I went with an iPhone 16, because only two phones in 14-15 years (iPhone 4, 8, and now 16) is something no other brand can currently compete with. Unpopular here, I know, but I don't care about a jack port (my android work phone has one and its only function is to build up pocket dust), or sideloading (I don't even 'sideload' much in my laptops, almost everything comes from the official repositories).

I really hope the phone landscape changes and, in six years or so, I can buy a proper FOSS phone, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

iOS is meaningless. We have zero insight into what's really going on, and it's not a device that allows any control.

Apple lies and obfuscates as much as any other org does, and is majorly hypocritical about it.

Plus, it's a lot easier to provide updates when you control all the hardware, and sunset perfectly good hardware by not allowing apps to continue to work.

[–] Sirence@feddit.org 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If I'd drop more than 1k on a phone I'd expect that thing to get updates until the sun explodes.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That iPhone 8 (plus) was like 750. So like a hundred a year. I literally am the person than spends less on phones out of my entire social circle.

Edit: also I've had three android (not so) cheap phones—one handed down to me, previous to the iPhone 4, that I had for a few months. And my current and former work phones, provided by my company—and hated (still hating the current one) the hell out of them, utter trash full of ads and uninstallable spyware.

[–] Sirence@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

750 eur in 2017 is more than 900 eur in todays money. Like I said, if the phone is 1k or almost that amount, it better have insane support. And while I can't help with work phones, as those are subject to your company, if you ever need the info for a personal phone: there is nothing you can not deinstall using adb. You can uninstall anything including system apps to the point the phone can't boot anymore, so don't go too wild.

Also don't get me wrong, I hate both apple and google equally. But my cyanogenmod phone had updates from 2012 to 2019 and was 180 eur new. We need vialble linux phones sooner than later.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

There's a serious disingenuity in how Apple and its cult always claims to be best in security updates. That security patch could be anything from a system kernel patch, fixing the mail app or just a browser update which is done via the play store services in Android ecosystem. And you don't know shit about what update is what because it isn't open-source and you have to just believe whatever Apple tells you. Like theyll call it the "best security update yet", and typical for a cult, everyone claps.

Yes, you have to get a system patch to get a browser update on iOS, and are 0-day vulnerable until daddy Apple sends a system patch whenever it feels like it. Fanboys then eat it up like Apple is so good with longetivity of their devices.

I still have android devices older than iPad 2 that still work with some FOSS apps. But when you bring up you can install apps outside the play store, all fanboys get their panties twisted and start pointing out sideloading is not common and it's not secure. Then why the hell is Google trying so hard to patch it?

But also every time iOS or Mac vulnerability comes up they go hush and try to bury the news. Like how they bend over backwards for China and dine with dictators in Saudi Arabia (See how a cult handles criticism? they locked the thread). But No, that level of encroachment won't happen to you tho, because Apple told you so?

Take that marketing talking point somewhere else.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 3 points 8 hours ago

There's work being done on that front. If you are able. Maybe, you can contritube something too

http://librephone.fsf.org/

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 8 points 12 hours ago

Currently receiving regular security updates.

Device released in December, 2025

Security patch updates will be discontinued in December, 2028

This is from the support page for Motorola G 2026. You can see it will receive security updates until 2028. The page lists android 17 as next OS update but no guarantee for android 18 and 19.

Note: Page was translated by firefox original page is in german language.

https://de-de.support.motorola.com/app/software-security-update/g_id/7112#gs=eyJndWlkZUlEIjo3MTEyLCJxdWVzdGlvbklEIjo0LCJyZXNwb25zZUlEIjoxODYsImd1aWRlU2Vzc2lvbiI6InAqRnVNKmlyIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoicCpwdU0qaXIifQ..