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This was just a way for home builders to save money by building fewer walls.

They convinced homebuyers and influencers that is trendy, that living in a house that feels like a Walmart supercenter was the thing to do.

I really don't think many homebuyers asked for a toilet next to their living room.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Nah, adding an interior wall during construction is cheap. They build open floorplans because that's what people want. I've been on dozens of custom house builds and ALL of them had open floorplans. Whether or not they're good is up for debate, though!

I see the appeal of both but lean anti-open floorplan. Like I want walls in a kitchen but prefer when it opens up to the living room or dining room. I currently have an "enclosed" kitchen and I don't like that it feels separate

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Some interior walls might actually make it cheaper to build. All that structure is still there in the open plan, the big beams are just hidden.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most houses are narrow enough the modern trusses can span the whole width and there are no big beams. If you are in the exception (more likely they didn't use trusses than you live in a mansion too wide) then a beam/wall is needed, but that isn't the common case for modern construction.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I guess I'm stuck in the old house/renovation train of thought.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah true, beams get REALLY expensive

[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I do see people install TVs above their fireplace of their own free will. They just see other people doing it and think "that's what I want!"

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's an especially funny truth to me because I did home AV and saw it all the time.

To me, the only "acceptable" way to do it is with a Samsung Frame that stays on Art Mode 99% of the time.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Open floor plans are often more expensive, because you can't use interior walls to carry the load of upper floors/roofs.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Unless you're talking about a really big span -- and usually we're not, since even open floor plan houses tend to be long in only one direction -- it's not that big a difference. A little bit of extra wood for beams and columns is cheap compared to the overall cost of the building.

Retrofitting an open floor plan on a building that wasn't initially designed that way is expensive, of course, but that's a different thing.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago

There are pros and cons to them. I've lived in both. I want my kitchen to have better access to a main space because so much of living (both daily life and parties) is in the kitchen. However I also want separate rooms, my kid's violin practice shouldn't bother the other kids piano; different party activities should be in different rooms. If you can afford to have both that is ideal, but can you afford that large of a house or do you have to choose a compromise?

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Claustrophobic building practices are worse.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad there isn't some kind of middle ground between tiny rooms and completely open concepts.

[–] Jojowski@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Next step: remove the bathroom walls. Shit in the open just like god intended!

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's just a way to make small houses more pleasant.

[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That part I could understand. But I'll never get the US thinking of "why yes, I want to stand smack in the middle of my living room when I come through the entry".

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I like foyers but HATE formal front rooms. Such a waste of space

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Alex, what is a hallway?

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I do agreee with this. Our front door is by the kitchen & I don't like that but understand the design, there are big windows and French doors in back, so you are looking at a nice view.

When we eventually get the resources to redo the kitchen, going to give up a few feet of space to put an entry, little bench, buffer zone and direct the eye to the lounge area in front, away from the kitchen. Not a literal anteroom, don't like that (feels like entering through the garage, sort of unfriendly) but better flow.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like open kitchen, dining room, living room, but the bathroom should be down the hall somewhere.

[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

I know, right? I made a typo in my post - that bathroom is right next to where the dining table would be.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

but... but... how else are you going to set up your ballroom?

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[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Designing my house with a large 'great room.' I've always loved them, I like space!

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Open plan is just kitchen/dining/living room? We have that now and I love it. Have never seen a toilet in a living room.

Having no walls between kitchen/dining/living works so well for us, this is the first time I have had a house with more open plan & it does look bigger and keeps everyone from crowding me in the kitchen when we have parties.

And walls don't cost much - we moved some around when we bought this house and interior walls that are not structural are affordable (compared to other renovations).

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

IMO, some of the popular trends are fetishization of being poor. Open floor plans ≈ small apartments. Farmhouse / country style / industrial ≈ simplicity and scraping by.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes it's a trend for bachelors that crave space. Try living there with a partner and 2 kids.

[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a bachelor, and I guess it's fun having room to walk around, play with RC cars and stuff, but it seems impractical for families.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

In a decade or so, interior walls will be trendy again. Contractors are ensuring themselves a steady flow of business.