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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 1 points 2 years ago

There isn’t anything realistic they can do. At this point the damage has been done over the past 5 years or so and the API thing was kind of just the last straw for me.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Either free access to the API for mobile app developers or allow mobile app developers to run adds to pay for API access at a price corresponding to the actual costs involved with providing the API access...

And fix the linking "bug" they created 5 years ago to try to force old.reddit site users to migrate to the new shitty reddit site by breaking links on old.reddit.

But neither of those will happen... and I'm actually happy about that. I've been growing more and more dissatisfied with Reddit for years, and if they decide to wreck it they can wreck it. I will miss what it used to be, but I won't miss what it has become.

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[–] eggsandwich@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a platform based so heavily around user content, they really seem to hate their users. Even if they went back on the API pricing plan, Reddit is just testing the waters for what changes they can get away with to become more profitable and corporate-friendly, and this is something I feel like they’re gonna continue to do.

Only thing they can do to bring me back is more transparency in what they’re doing, but that’s not gonna happen lol.

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[–] Aninjanameddaryll@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I dunno, the way they've (board members, ceo, admins involved in trying to spin things, etc) been acting, it's pretty obvious they don't want the engaged, active users back. They want to turn it into an ad server and user tracking hub like facebook.

Maybe if they can spez, build a new board of directors, and walk back everything they've done totally, I might be willing to use it passively but directly (as in reading things there via my app of choice, but not interacting) rather than only indirectly via search results when the only hits are there.

That ain't gonna happen. If they don't do that, my last act will be to find replacement mods for the places I'm responsible for, and then I'm gone totally. I'd have done it already, but I'd have to use reddit to recruit anyone at all, and I'm not willing to do that until the protest is over.

Hell, I've thought about just doing enough mod actions that admins would have to break their own rules to oust me, and leaving them locked. But I don't like shitting on communities of people just because the site has gone to shit.

[–] sunny_@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I haven't been a redditor for as long as you guys have, being a teenager and all, but you can see the deterioration. It's strange, losing reddit. Feels like losing a friend but different. But they took the enshittification route, and I'm never going back.

[–] pumpkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Nothing. I don't like how they treat their users and I dont trust them. It's not like they were great and this came from nowhere. Reddit has been getting progressively worse for a long time.

fortunately, we have alternatives and don't need reddit.

[–] crossmr@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

They need to fix everything. I can barely report anything on the site without being banned for it. The admin come around later and fix it and apology, but because that's happened so many times, safety's first response is permanent ban which means I have to use an alt to contact them and get them to fix it. Despite the fact that they told me several times all the suspensions and warnings would be removed, they aren't. I reported something for being a duplicate a couple weeks ago (it was there was another copy on the front page of the sub, and it was one of their report reasons) and came back an hour later to both a permanent ban notice for 'report abuse' for that, and also the fact that my account wasn't actually banned because someone had come through and unbanned me. The site is bordering on being beyond repair at this point.

[–] cerevant@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This is kind of like the Wizards of the Coast / OGL situation for me - just enough to make me consider the alternatives, and realize that the alternatives are a better long term solution.

Reddit has become overrun with crypto scam spammers, and they don't appear to be making any attempt to control it. We'll see if the fediverse can do a better job.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I've been wanting a return to a distributed social web for over a decade now. Now that it looks truly viable, why would I want to go back?

[–] Ruorc@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Hard to say... the resignation of Spez and withdrawal of plans for an IPO would be great, as a start. Commitment by leadership to focus on users and mods instead of chasing $ is also on the list.

[–] Tavirez@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

For me to go back, the CEO would have to be completely open about how they treated Christian and fully explain why they are doing that API pricing. But they won’t so I won’t go.

[–] headie_sage@fanaticus.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with most of the other posters, I'm done with reddit. I want the community but I don't want the corporation. It's not that I find admins who run lemmy instances more trustworthy by default, but the decentralized nature make me think it can be more resilient and altogether a better experience.

Boy do I wish we had RIF for lemmy though 😞

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Jerboa has felt kinda similar to RIF I mainly used RIF for years but im not the best at seeing flaws with apps so there might be weird bugs i don't notice

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

open the source code and become part of the fediverse. reddit is stuck in the past

[–] HisNoodlyServant@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The API change was just another nail in the coffin for me. I was running a sober and large local friend group and my account was randomly nuked for "promoting violence". I appealed it with the comment because it wasn't even close to that and then my alt was banned too. Like their moderation/appeals is just three bots in a trench coat. Fuck you Spez.

So yea I think I am officially done. I have some alts but going to either close them or get them suspended during the AMA lol.

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Do share which get banned lol

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Go back to being open source, become a non-profit.

Basically not gonna happen.

The profit motive will just recreate this same scenario no matter what they promise.

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