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[–] monsterlynn@beehaw.org 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm so over this game show host.

Why did anyone ever give a fuck about this guy?

He was a bottom of the barrel choice for a gameshow and was super lucky to get the Apprentice.

Any fuckstick could've taken that role and run with it

[–] daychilde@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Why did anyone ever give a fuck about this guy?

It's amazing what 25 years of propaganda will do to people.

[–] FoolishBrainiac@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

The Apprentice did more to convince people he was a brilliant businessman than his work in business ever did.

[–] Kinbladez@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey now. Calling him a game show host is diminishing his filmography significantly. He was also an extra in Home Alone 2.

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[–] darkknight@midwest.social 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Let me know when he goes to jail.

[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Listening to Youtube, Beau of the Fifth Column, he says the Federal court he's in now in Florida has a 92-94% conviction rate.

[–] Gray@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

+1 for the Beau of the Fifth Column shoutout. If his listeners are here then I know I'm among good people.

[–] RedPander@lemmy.rogers-net.com 7 points 2 years ago

This. Pretty much as soon as he starting running for president there has been talk about illegal operations and trials. But nothing has ever come of it. Even if there's a 98% chance, I'll only really care once a sentence is handed out.

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[–] Clbull@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This and Boris Johnson resigning makes my dick hard.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can we try not to unnecessarily sexualize this? Too much of this and we'll end up a reddit/twitter clone where people are just aiming for quick/easy zingers

[–] Clbull@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah... sorry that I posted something a bit against Beehaw's ethos.

I am a British citizen. I have lived under this circus fiesta of a Conservative government for the past thirteen years and watched them slowly erode my rights. They have taken away so much from me and nothing has made my day more than watching Boris resign.

If anything he and his cronies should be in prison.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago

No worries and thank you for apologizing! You also deserve a right to vent against Boris, and I also happen to agree that he's worthy of spite 😎

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Eh, I think most people are sexual beings. Sexualizing things is a quick route to making things relateable, that being the case. Also, it's funny.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm glad you enjoyed the comment, however it doesn't fit super well within our ethos or what we're trying to accomplish at beehaw, hence the reply.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, of course. I was simply attempting to provide an answer to the question. Apologies.

[–] NekoRogue@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This was such a nice exchange to see on my first day on Beehaw as a Reddit refugee. I think I picked the right instance. Minor disagreements handled with kindness and empathy without anyone blowing up? Ah so refreshing what is this feeling

[–] towerful@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never realised how guarded I was in Reddit. I'm constantly taken by surprise here

[–] klemptor@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know, right? People... respectfully disagreeing with one another? Having a... healthy and civil discourse?

Holy Moses, I almost forgot this was possible online!

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[–] nhgeek@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really can't wait until we stop hearing about Trump.

[–] GraceGH@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I hate to say it, but I don't think that day will ever come. Even in death, his die-hards will be slinging conspiracy theories about how he was assassinated or how he was jesus and he'll ressurect soon to take on mega-hillary's doomsday army.

Hopefully we can at least confine it to its own section of the internet though.

[–] nhgeek@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

It's an extremely pessimistic future you paint, but you are probably right.

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[–] starrox@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Honestly, with all the shit this disgusting wannabe dictator has already gotten away with, I'll hold on to celebrations until there is some kind of definitive verdict.

And dont get me started on the sentence even IF they convict him for something. He's old, he's rich, he probably still has some buddies in higher places - I'd be absolutely surprised if he would go to a genpop prison. - Even though thats exactly what he would deserve the most.

[–] zhunk@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Charging him is still a big milestone, and setting the precedent that a former president can be charged is still important. But, yeah, sentencing will be the even bigger milestone.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is crazy to me is that everyone is making it out like there HAD to be a precedent set, as if the baseline of being a U.S. citizen was not enough to already imply that they could/should be held accountable for breaking the law. That heavily implies what 99% of us already believed, there are CLEARLY two different standards for the rule of law, one for those with money and power, and another one for everyone else.

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[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

98% conviction rate. That's for all cases in general and not just the ones where the accused is on tape talking about the fact that he did the thing that's in question.

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[–] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

I'm cautiously hopeful. I didn't expect him to be indicted in the first place.

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[–] patchymoose@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

It really feels like we, as a country, are being dragged towards an ugly 2024 crescendo of the Trump era. This espionage case is going to coincide with the 2024 election.

[–] Bones_17@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago

I'm getting a bit worried about Tuesday's arraignment, as he's pretty clearly calling for his cronies to show up to "support" him

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It's important to remember at this point that being bad at crime is not a valid defense.

If you mug a guy and immediately drop the wallet down a storm drain, you've still committed robbery. If you steal a car but lock the keys in it, it's still theft. If you attempt to overthrow your own government and can't organize people to actually pull it off, you've still committed treason.

Trump, despite being a career criminal, is still really shit at being a criminal. Some people will construe his failure to execute with innocence - it is not. It's incompetence.

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[–] bouncing@partizle.com 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm of mixed mind about this.

Obviously the course of justice must go forward, and if prosecutors have a strong case, the should pursue it.

On the other hand, given all that he's done to undermine democracy, subvert elections, destroy civility, erode democratic norms and traditions, and find common cause with hostile foreign powers, I'm not really keen on the idea that 30 years later, when people say Trump, they'll think "oh, the guy who mishandled classified documents?"

It would be like if Ted Bundy got caught writing bad checks and was locked up for that.

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They famously got Al Capone on tax evasion, and nobody thinks of him as "the tax cheat" first and foremost.

Besides, I suspect that this is a case where the floodgates are going to open up in terms of investigations and charges, once the first set sticks to him. There's also the NY state fraud charges already filed, and the GA state election tampering investigation that is widely expected to lead to charges.

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[–] AndrewOz@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Strange as it may sound, the Orange fella is not my first pick for the tumbrel. He is certainly up there in the first 4 or 5. But number one is surely Rupert, followed by the Cock (deliberate misspelling) brothers...

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

And brought before his good friend, Judge Aileen Cannon.

Sigh. He's going to get away with bloody murder again.

[–] nodester@partizle.com 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The irony is that he is the one who signed a law making mishandling classified documents a felony.

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[–] SemioticStandard@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if this time we'll get a mugshot or perp walk out of it? Man, wouldn't that be something?

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