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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's a valid point though. A simple change in terminology and messaging is literally all it would take for these types of criticisms to go away.

[–] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 17 minutes ago

I been thinking about this kind thing recently. In Brazil (To be more precise in the state of Bahia which I live) there has been a spike on femicide which bugged me because of the term, "What is the difference between this and homicide of women and the answer i found is: Femicide is the killing of women BECAUSE they are women. It's an specification of the crime. So I think the same thing can be said about feminism: It is a fight for equality of gender focused ONLY in women. It does not make it less than true equality, but the terminology make it become an idea/movement, just like socialism and capitalism (Cold war for example).

References (Translation is available with your right click)

https://www.ba.gov.br/comunicacao/noticias/2025-03/366428/duas-cada-cinco-mulheres-baianas-mortas-de-forma-violenta-sao-vitimas-de https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/artigos/distincao-juridica-e-social-entre-femicidio-e-feminicidio-no-direito-brasileiro/3820107194

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No it’s not. The people who make these sort of pathetic criticisms will find a new reason to not support women.

The reason we have individual words is that we can apply labels to issues that only affect certain people.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

The criticisms remain valid regardless of your opinion on the people who say them. Ultimately optics do matter in any social movement, and quite a lot. If feminism wants to be perceived as an egalitarian movement, then it has to brand itself as such. It's slogans, terminology, mentality, and the behavior of its supporters have to adjust to reflect a true adaptation of this principle. Otherwise, it'll remain a movement that will be perceived as one that is solely focused on the advancement of women in a society irrespective of the status of men.

The current position is just inconsistent from an optics perspective. Either feminism is synonymous with egalitarianism and it adapts to reflect that or it remains as it is and gets viewed as a separate movement. I'm of the opinion that the direction the movement should take should depend on the society its in, but I digress. The point is you can't have it both ways. As long as that inconsistency exists, it will always be pointed and criticized by people.

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