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[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Its just "Ukraine". Its a sovereign nation, that is its name.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Commas are important.

[–] qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ukraine stopped being called 'the Ukraine' around its 1991 independence from the Soviet Union.

Sorry old man, times change — should probably get used to it.

[–] qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I shouldn't have put it in quotes, I did it to denote my personal paraphrasing after doing some light reading.

The usage was common in Soviet times, and the idea that Ukraine was a region and not a country was pushed by the Soviet Union — it is now considered gramatically incorrect.

Direct quotes from Wikipedia:

The use of "the Ukraine" has been officially deprecated by the Ukrainian government and many English-language media publications.

In 1993, the Ukrainian government explicitly requested that, in linguistic agreement with countries and not regions,[65] the Russian preposition в, v, be used instead of на, na,[66] and in 2012, the Ukrainian embassy in London further stated that it is politically and grammatically incorrect to use a definite article with Ukraine.

Edit: article link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine

[–] qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dang! I need to be more careful about speaking english how Ukrainian government tells me to!

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, the few Ukranians I've met refer to it as Ukraine — it is also listed in the countries declaration of independence and constitution as Ukraine, not the Ukraine.

Or are we suggesting that documents like these can't be used as a sufficient reference? What would be good enough for you, should I survey every living Ukranian and ask them individually what they think?

[–] qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Look it up in The Uzhhorod English Dictionary!

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[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago

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