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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Mandatory Pro-Hades/Persephone Note: There are ancient interpretations of their relationship as wholesome. This is not just a modern reading/meme.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago

Even if of not. It's a made up story, so I decide how I want to read it! And I want them to be a wholesome underworld couple, because I need something wholesome in my live!

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I listened to Stephen Fry's audiobook Mythos and Heroes, and other than kidnapping and tricking her, Stephen does make it feel like shes happy there.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Kidnapping of that sort was common in Ancient Greece in its... less wholesome form, but also common as a means of eloping when two consenting people knew that they wouldn't get approval for their marriage otherwise. Some of the ancient tellings of the myth unambiguously portray it as the... unwholesome form, but some others imply the 'elopement' angle.

Likewise, some ancient accounts have Persephone tricked into eating the pomegranate seeds (and deeply upset about it), but other accounts portray Persephone as knowingly eating the pomegranate seeds as a means of defying her mother.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

There's even some mention of Persephone as an underworld deity predating Hades getting the gig.

[–] stray@pawb.social 7 points 5 days ago

Maybe it's like a Baby It's Cold Outside situation where she's playing into the idea of being conquered because that's considered a normal courtship style for her culture.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's Demeter who needs to have a meeting.

"Demeter, we noticed a pattern of your work output dropping drastically, same time every year."

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With the way winters been lately, I'd say they're having relationship issues.

[–] Syndication@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's almost never cold anymore. Winter enjoyers like myself are sad.

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I swear when I was a kid we would regularly get a foot of snow on the ground. I don't think since 2010 we've regularly had enough snow to build a snowman.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, I'm not sure that's feeling worth it to me!?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tsk, clearly not a romantic

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Ugh, fine, I'll go get the pomegranate. 🙄

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yah kidnapping women to force them into marriage is cute now

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is among the more romantic and wholesome stories though.

Which actually tells you more about all the other lovestories than about Hades and Persephone.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that mostly just the Ovidian interpretation?

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

It makes me happy, and thus I choose to believe it

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Considering the amount of female gaze stories that involve it, it isn't new.